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1963 Washington Quarter FS-102 DDO & DDR

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 Posted 06/25/2017  11:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add error_koin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I had what I thought previously was the FS-101 DDO, but after taking another random look, I noticed I may have the more rare FS-102 with the DDR as well? What do you think? Also, does this coin look like MS condition? And would the scatches shown in the 5th picture cause a details/cleaned grading? Came from a coin roll of silver Washingtons. THANK YOU.

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06/25/2017 11:40 pm
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Looks like an early die state example. No chip above the R.

http://varietyvista.com/09b%20WQ%20...3PDDO007.htm

Looks to be ms, but the scratches might get a detail grade.
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Congrats, very nice find!

Your coin appears to be the FS-25-1963 FS 101 (023)
CONECA: DDO-001

I see no doubling on the reverse letters around the rim
from your pics.


Can you take a close-up pic of the first S in STATES, especially the top and bottom loops?

REF: http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/147475
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I see faint doubling outlines on the right side of the lettering, with similar spacing width of doubling compared to FS-102 pictures. Hard to capture pictures, doubling does not stand out well. May need to take more pictures tonight.

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Did you download the full size pics from the PCGS site and compare the Reverse to your coin?

Look at the first S in States and also the E in States and the F in OF.

There is clear notching on these letters in the PCGS coin.

Also, look at the last R in Dollar: Clear doubling on the PCGS coin that I'm not seeing on your coin.

(IMHO).

If you feel that it is the FS-102 maybe send it in to a TPG
for certification etc.

At least you know its definitely the FS-101!
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I am with chukster 125,this is a DDO-001 FS-101 as I don't see any doubling on the reverse of your coin.Do you see a light die crack East-West through upper hair under ER of LIBERTY? I can't tell because of the glare! if there is one, your coin is stage c.
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Am I seeing things? Check the variety vista link example. Error koins example looks to be a later state. I've got 5 dollars on fs-102. Lol.
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I am now certain I have the FS-102. I will upload more pictures tonight. It is very minimal separation in doubling and is difficult to capture correctly... I dont knoe how the guys on Varietyvista and Cherrypickers get such nice shots
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I can see the doubling on the reverse, I agree with FS-102.
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FS-101. I do not think there were enough of FS-102 struck from its particular dies to experience such a significant variance in die states as to explain the differences in the lettering between this coin vs. the FS-102 plates.
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Sorry, I guess I'm looking at too many COINS (LOL)!

I still do not see this coin being the FS102.

error_koin: I hope you are right!

I'll wait to see your new pics.


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It matches the doubling shown from the CherryPickers' Guide. There is no way people could see this doubling without magnification. Worth slabbing even if it has the chance of a "Details" grade?

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I see the notches on the F
I stand corrected!

Congrats on your FS-102!

If you are worried about a possible Details grade, I would not bother to have this coin slabbed

Again, just my opinion.
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I met with a coin dealer here who works for PCGS and grades coins for them. He said the scratches aren't deep enough to worry about a Details/Cleaned grade. He said MS63. Sent for grading (along with a 1964 Type C), we will see the verdict.
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Cool! Can't wait to see what you get back.

Do you have images of the Type C you can post?
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It's the coin on the right. He said AU55-58. Pretty cool find when I saw it, easy to distinguish after looking at so many silver Washingtons.

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