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1909 S Indian Head Penny

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Your thoughts on grade & problems. Thanks!

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My gut said something wasn't right regarding authenticity. It could be fine, but I'd pass.
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Mintmark looks right and the first feather has the expected lack of detail for the SF mint. Looks authentic to me and I'd say easily an AU-55 to 58.
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I agree with the others, authenticity is questionable. Everything looks mushy.
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I'll have to pass on this one, don't know enough about 09-S fakes .
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For these pricey key dates always buy certified examples. Unless you are an expert on the series and know what to look out for via real/fake I'd save $ and buy a PCGS/NGC piece.
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The letters in Liberty look fuzzy.
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Interesting observations.
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The lack of line details and fuzzy look to the design elements would turn me away from this example.
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This may be a counterfeit (transfer die?) or possibly just environmental damage/corrosion.

Mushy, pitted look to the entire surface on both sides; reverse denticles are too long and too skinny,
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Pics are not the sharpest, but from what I can see, the S MM lacks both the upper and lower tail serifs, which would definitely make it a fake.
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