Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

What Explains The Labels On These Multi-Holders?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 5 / Views: 1,578Next Topic  
Valued Member
mlov's Avatar
United States
156 Posts
 Posted 07/01/2017  9:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mlov to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Who labels these things?
Take a look at the labels on these graded multi-holders from Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC). Each of these multi-holders contain the coins from a 1998 Bank of Korea mint set. One of them is labeled, "1991 and 1998 Coins," another is labeled, "1998 Mint Set," and yet a third is labeled, "Six Piece Type Set."
I may understand "1998 Mint Set," since that's what it is, so that's what it should be labeled; or maybe even "1991 and 1998 Coins," because... well, that's what's inside the holder (and the original mint set packaging). But what is this "Six Piece Type Set" baloney? Huh?
Help me understand how NGC could have three different labels for the same mint set, which is what the multi-holder is offered for in the first place, I believe.

What-Explains-The-Labels-On-These-Multi-Holders?
Edited by mlov
07/01/2017 9:39 pm
Pillar of the Community
UltraRant's Avatar
Norway
1358 Posts
 Posted 07/02/2017  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do believe that it's the grader who also makes the label, so I guess that he or she is to blame for anything 'weird' in the description. Having said that, I honestly can't find anything that's definitively wrong here, just some different names than probably expected. Anyway, keep in mind that Americans have absolutely no affinity at all with anything that's not American, or generally referred to as 'world coins'. So that probably explains a lot already: I assume that the grader of the third set had no clue of which coins can be found in a South Korean type set / Mint set. For what I know, work pressure at NGC is pretty high and time to do research, especially on such coins, is very limited. Apparently even reading the original package is too much asked, if they were sent in that for grading.
Valued Member
mlov's Avatar
United States
156 Posts
 Posted 07/03/2017  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mlov to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://goccf.com/t/291521#2478361

Thanks for your kind response.

I had sort of guessed much of what you say here.

However, NGC should be a little bit more interested in World Coins, since they are the ones that have better specialized in world pieces than PCGS has. Most world coin collectors who do grade their coins with a U.S. TPG seem to prefer NGC. I know the Koreans do...
Cheers.
Pillar of the Community
Australia
3831 Posts
 Posted 07/05/2017  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess it comes down to perception. Some graders may be aware what genuine mint sets may look like. Some can only guess that it may be non-official.

Honestly though, with some of the official South Korean mint sets, having different years of 1 and 5 won coin would throw a lot of collectors out. (First pic)

Lastly I think we cannot discount the fact that a mint set may have been broken up and then submitted, hence representing the last picture.

My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries
My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm
Regularly updated at least once a month.
Valued Member
PatAR's Avatar
United States
262 Posts
 Posted 07/05/2017  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PatAR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting phenomenon to be sure.

I feel compelled to point out that the submitter bears some responsibility as well. I would suggest that the labeling may have originated from the submitter or from a lack of information supplied by the submitter leaving the TPG to guess what they were looking at.

Because all TPG personnel are pressed for time, I make a point of providing the identification and a direct citation of the relevant reference book or actual photo of an auction catalog page, etc to prove that my classification is accurate. Having done this I have received my NGC holdered medals with precisely the correct labeling every time. Admittedly this takes much more time to submit, but is worth it to me.

Hope this is helpful.
Pillar of the Community
999fine's Avatar
United States
1346 Posts
 Posted 07/05/2017  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
patAR: very good point.
  Previous TopicReplies: 5 / Views: 1,578Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.24 seconds to rattle this change. Forums