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1652 Pine Tree Coin, Real Or Fake?

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Hey everyone, I'm searching for some help on determining if this coin is real or a fake. I have not been able to get a weight on it, it is not magnetic, approximately 1.27mm thick. If there are questions you have I will try to answer to the best of my ability. Thanks for the help in advance.

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 Posted 07/07/2017  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are really tough because of the primitive strikes and all the variances. I look at a lot of these at auctions. Been looking to buy one for months. The problem is every coin is different. Your best bet would be to send it in to a TPG. From what I see it looks real enough to justify paying the grading fee. Unless we have a resident expert on early fake MA colonials, that's probably the best advice you will get here.

How did you come into possession of it?
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 Posted 07/08/2017  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just reminded me I had a similar one with COPY punched into it.
You can compare yours with my fake. Mine is more silver colored, brighter than yours. The light shows it copper colored.
I am suspecting you simply have one that was not punched with the COPY mark on it.


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When I was a kid, my mother had a co-worker whose parents had left her their home. I went over with my mother to see the house and being a nosy kid I wondered through the house and started snooping through their stuff in the back bedroom. I found a drawer with a few old watches, coins and other small things. I asked the lady what she planned to do with them. She told me if I wanted I could have them so fast forward many years later they now sit in my drawer at home. Maybe once ever few years I think about them and wonder if there is any value to any of it but then never get around to asking. Truthfully I'm not sure where to begin to ask.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mattcogdell to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thenickleguy, surprisingly that looks very similar to the one I have. I'd think they were identical if it did not have copy stamped on it.
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If you Google 1652 Pine Tree and look at the images, you will see right away that generally the pine trees on many examples shown have nuch more details and branches. Our two images so far look to have been struck by the same dies.
There certainly are many varieties of these as back then a lot of dies were hand cut to stamp the coin in question.
I bet if I overlayed my image on yours, it would match up almost perfectly, including the deliberate off center portion that is deliberately intended to make the fakes look a little more authentic.
The branches in mine are exactly the same as yours. The date is the same shape and the lettering although crude is the same as well. Sorry, but they made fake coins for many years as souvenirs and novelties.
Now they make them pretty much to deceive buyers.
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 Posted 07/08/2017  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh and shame on me to CCF. !!
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I would always be 100% sure. Go to any jewelry store and ask for the weight in grams and get back with us.
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That is not a definitive test. Some people are striking these out of silver.
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does not match any Crosby that I can find.
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It's a fake.
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