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Two World Coins - What Are They?

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Got these 2 in a grab bag of world coins. I have no clue where they are from, when they were minted, or the denomination. Coin #1 is obviously of Asian origin, but that's all I can figure out.

Any help is appreciated!

Coin #1

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Coin #2

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Chinese cash and I'm thinking Portugal for the second. Don't have my books here, so ill check to see if you get more specific information, and if not, do some digging for you.
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#2 is Portuguese India, Miguel I, undated 1/2 tanga 1831-34: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48868.html

#1 looks familiar, but I have no idea what it is specifically.
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Chinese cash and I'm thinking Portugal for the second. Don't have my books here, so ill check to see if you get more specific information, and if not, do some digging for you.


Thanks, I'd appreciate that.


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#2 is Portuguese India, Miguel I, undated 1/2 tanga 1831-34


Cool! That will pay for the whole grab bag.

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@beefer518, hopefully our Asian experts will weigh in also, but that looks like a Japanese cast cash to me: Kuan Ei tsu ho are the characters on the obv. According to my Hartill, here are gazillion of small variations in both the obv and rev characters, but I would attribute it as Hartill #25.51-53 and so minted between 1626 and 1859 AD. A neat pick-up!
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Thanks Spence!

I looked on this page: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20859.html , and if I'm correct, the character on the reverse would be some type of date indicator, then it was minted 1739-1838? It is iron, as it is strongly magnetic, and the diameter matches at 23.9mm. This has potential to be my oldest coin, beating out my Fugio (depending what year it was actually minted, which I'll never know). Sweet!
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I think you are on the right track.
The basic coins (much like our Lincoln cents) were made over a long period.
The reverse shows a mint mark. And that can help narrow down a date.
Depending on how confident you are with interpreting the mint mark, there are some other choices from an earlier time, also made of cast iron.
This example is quite common and made at Kameido.


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 Posted 07/21/2017  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arok to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 is Ishinomaki-sen, I believe.
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