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I just ran out of Saflips and have a long ways to go with organizing my collection into binders.

Like, hundreds. Buying enough Saflips will put me back like $100 if not more. Can anyone suggest good archival alternatives that aren't as pricy? Non-PVC and I don't want to do cardboard so I can remove them for pics etc.

I was thinking about this brand:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-2X2-Hec...100408.m2460

Any experiences positive or negative there? Suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
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Finn, I use these from JakesMP.com
http://www.jakesmp.com/CSD_Flips/CS...ts_01_M.html
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Saflips cost 5 cents each more than the no name brand.
If your coins warrant safer storage than a 2 cent cardboard flip why would you even take a chance?
Tried and true vs "spin the wheel"?
Saflips = cheap insurance. No contest.
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To a certain extent in depends on the value of the coins you are saving. Common recent world coins of lower denomination probably aren't worth enough to warrant Safe Flips.

If your coins are worth several dollars each, or more, I'd stay with safe flips. The few dollars you save with wanna bees isn't worth the potential problems.
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Have you tried Guardhouse? I switched to Guardhouse to save a little. Only thing I don't like is that they are not as pliable to work with. Got them from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Archival-Qua...ords=saflips
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I have tried all sorts of flips. Saflips are the best by far for me. I would stick with them.
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If you are eventually going into binders,
2x2's would be a logical step and alternative to Saflips.
Write any comments on the 2x2, which moves with the coin.
The next alternative step is archival quality album pages

For binders, I use old 4 binder hole trade sample catalog binders. Pages can get quite heavy; an album page with 20 x Morgans weighs 1 1/4 pounds. The album pages can more easily tear out at the hole with only 2 or three holes used in the page.

The trouble with 4 hole binders is that they may be hard to find.
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I believe this garners the question: Why are Saflips so expensive?

The cheapest I found were on ebay and cost $0.24/each. That seems a tad high considering what they are and what is most likely a simple production process with abundant raw materials (plastic).

I started out, less than a year ago, using Saflips and have really been disappointed. Coins are very difficult to view when in one, not only because the free space allows the coin to move and thus, scratches the inner pocket but, one side is obscured by three layers of thick plastic.

I haven't bought any Saflips or anything like them since the start and I don't think I will. Cardboard and Mylar 2x2s are the most versatile option for me. Taking pics of coins in them is a lot easier than coins in Saflips.
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I buy cardboard / Mylar 2x2's for AUD 10 cents (0.8C) each retail, and about half that in bulk.

They are at least as safe for the coin as Safelips, and the coins do not slide around inside the container.

I have a few Safelips, but occasionally I cut them up and put the panels inside a 2x2, when the 2x2 hole is too large, or the coin is valued at 100's of dollars.
Clear acrylic plastic sheet from food containers or other packaging does equally as well for this purpose.

You could even make improvised safelips for this purpose. Cut to size, and staple.
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Saflips are expensive because they use a more expensive plastic. Mylar and manufactured without oils that might contaminate the coins.

Some are PVC - which is bad for long term storage as the plasticizer (which makes them softer and easier to use) reacts with the metal. VERY BAD. As in long term destroy coin bad.

But other brands, such as Guardhouse are uPVC (unplasticized poly vinyl chloride) and are safe, but less expensive than Mylar.

The red flag is can you be sure they are uPVC - some are labeled as such, some are not. If you aren't 100% sure, don't risk it.

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