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Hello, I have this coin 1 dollar gold 1851 with 3 stars on reverse:    Sorry for the bad quality of the image. We could see that in the reverse there are two stars near the 1, and another star under the date 1851. It is gold made. I have been finding the origin of this coin, if itīs official or nor, but I havenīt find it. The normal coin does not have 3 stars on the revese. Do you know anything about it? Thanks. Edited by srnazgul
07/26/2017 06:24 am
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It doesn't look like a real US coin. Maybe it was made for jewelry. If it is gold I would expect it to weigh 1.7 grams.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Yes the coin is like the tipical 1851 1 dollar coin, the same weight and diameter, but the only difference is that it has this three stars. it has coppered patine also, like old coin. It would be imitation after all, curious...
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Bedrock of the Community
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I cropped and enlarged your images and this looks like a fake gold dollar that was put into a piece of jewelry. You say it is 1.70 grams and 12.70 mm in diameter? If so there's a chance it is actaully gold just not an actual coin.  |
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thanks BH1964, is very reasonable that you are saying. The coin is made of gold, tipical density of 90% gold, diameter and weight as the catalog. But is really estrange that one orpheber make that fake coin, it requires a lot of work, and is a stupid work because de copy is not exact. There must be more of this fake coins to make of this fake coin, a good bussines.
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Sometimes known as a 'jeweler's copy'.
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A tiny copy can be make 18K or 14K (75% or 58%) gold and there's no easy way to tell. In 1851 that 25 to 40 cent/piece difference could justify making a few thousand pieces.
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United States
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Yes, that would be a good fraud to get profit. Such fraudulent goldsmith deserves to get a place in the history of 1851 1 dollar coin. But this coin with three stars, not even has this glorious place in the history of fraudulent coins.
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Is this something you purchased? |
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About a year ago I read what I could find on the jewelers that made the California fractional coins. Many of them were French emigres and capable of high quality die making. However, their coins were debased, typically 75% of true US coin weight. So finding a replica coin that is the correct weight is very surprising.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Thanks for the information. I bought this coins, but I have sent back to the seller. There was 13 coins, he has said me that this coins are part of a rite of wedding. Like present from husband to wife. Of course, sounds like jewellery.
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