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1853* Seated Dollar For Grading

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Purchased for my type set for 160 shipped
http://www.ebay.com/itm/185-Seated-...AOSwgZZZanjp

I'm very sure it's an 1858 dollar with a mintage of 300, very rare. I've got it graded at XF40 Details damaged. Also, what would be a good value of it?
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I'd have paid $160 for that. Really cool.

I am seeing a possible 1853.
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I'd have paid $160 for that. Really cool.

I am seeing a possible 1853.


I thought that too at first, but after comparing an 1853 dollar to this one I determined it wasn't due to the line in the last digit not ending.
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but I believe the 1858 dollar was a proof only strike....not seeing a proof strike here...still a cool piece
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The 1858 Seated dollar was only issued in proof. These aren't proof surfaces and I doubt this is one of the few 210 coins to slip through the cracks and sell for $160. I suspect this is an 1853 dollar that was damaged and sold (or attempted to sell) as a '58 at one point.
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Let's solve this in an intelligent way. Since the 1858 has only 300 strikes, it is reasonable to assume that there was only one die pair in use. Let's compare the alignment of the digits. On the 1858, there are two denticles under the center of the 8. On the 1853, there is one. Your coin has one, thus it is an 1853.

I also just noticed that the date is much closer to the ground on the 1853, and the style of the 5 is completely different from the 1858.

QED

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It doesn't look like an 1858 but it's still a decent buy at $160.

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P.S. I just saw TypeCoin971793's post. Yes, the "5" is completed different and the digits don't align with the genuine proof I posted above.
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Darn I had wishful thinking lol. I feel embarassed
Thanks so much for the correction I learn something new every day
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You have an 1853. Easy to identify by the "Chin Whiskers"
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Holy cow! The seller had it listed as a half dollar. You did well on that deal. I agree it's a 53. The 53 chin whiskers sld is one the easiest to identify. See that goatee beard under liberties chin?
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agree xf deets damaged. nice coin and nice price.
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Glad this works for you - cannot understand the appeal of this at any price.
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compare to the average $160 lsd
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