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Would This Be Considered A Tampered ICCS Flap?

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Bought this from the past RCNA auction... I don't know if this would still be considered an ICCS graded coin. What do you guys think? I won't be sending them an email before I get a few of your opinions since I don't want to jump to conclusions

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 Posted 08/02/2017  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i believe ICCS will re holder it for you..i would give them a call. obviously the coin couldn';t be switched with that small of a hole..
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 Posted 08/02/2017  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would reholder it, in the event you wished to sell it for the listed grade.
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 Posted 08/02/2017  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right in that it can't be switched with another coin, but is it still considered an ICCS graded coin? It's open enough to cause damage to the coin
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ICCS flips are not well-designed to protect heavier and larger coins... this is a common problem...
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 Posted 08/03/2017  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I'm sure they'll make it right for you. Do not remove the coin.

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I won't be sending them an email...
You got that right.

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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Unreal, a company as big as ICCS and the business they do hasn't got a computer to contact them in 2017..
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Alright I'll call ICCS today and see if they can reholder

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Please let us know the results of your inquiry.
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Unreal, a company as big as ICCS and the business they do hasn't got a computer to contact them in 2017..


common sense would say they will evolve or become extinct...

however they (and their typewriter) have been hanging in there much past their expected expiry date...

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It is a simple business motto... "If it is not broken, don't fix it"

They also hold the lion's share of Canadian coin certification in Canada. So why would they spend any money to stretch into the digital age? A quick search on ebay.ca shows:

ICCS coins: 10,156 listings
CCCS coins: 261 listings
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common sense would say they will evolve or become extinct...


There is no competition besides CCCS in Canada for grading coins so that is why ICCS has cornered the market.

The monopoly would end if either PMG or PCGS ever opened a branch office in Canada. As of now, it is too expensive and too difficult to send coins to the US for grading.
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 Posted 08/04/2017  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Didn't get the chance to talk to them. These past few days were hectic at work. But I will try to call on Tuesday
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There is no competition besides CCCS in Canada for grading coins so that is why ICCS has cornered the market.

The monopoly would end if either PMG or PCGS ever opened a branch office in Canada. As of now, it is too expensive and too difficult to send coins to the US for grading.


I am on the side of that being a good thing...For so many reasons...
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I like ICCS too. Sometimes I just have one coin I want variety confirmed/graded and I stuff in $30 cash, they mail back the coin with a handwritten credit on the bottom of the invoice...which I then apply to another submission(s).

I like CCCS for hard slabbed coins...Louis was a bit too late to the show for my collection of soft slabs. :)
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