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1800 Half Dime For Opinions

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What are your thoughts on this 1800 Half Dime (grade)? Noted the scratches on the obverse and reverse. The coin is in a PCGS holder, and no notation of damage etc.


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F15
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I don't know what PCGS graded it at, but if I were to crack it out and send it in today I'd end up with a grade of "Fine Details - Scratched, damaged".
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I think it would make a fine, probably an F-12.

These early minor silvers are very tough to find without impairments of one kind or another. The scratches on the reverse look huge on a huge photo but might be pretty hard to see on the coin, even with magnification.

As such, PCGS will often walk these through as market acceptable, rather than detailed. I would not be surprised if this came back righteous.
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Shame on PCGS
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F-15, agree it belongs in a details holder.
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Buy the coin, not the slab.

Maybe this coin may have got a free pass because it's so old and expensive. I mean, if this was something like a 1942 Merc, it would be in a details slab, not that you would send it in anyway. But because this is much more special, due to it being so old and expensive, PCGS may have let the scratches slide.
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F-15 Details.
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F-15 details
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I agree with everything Moxking said except I grade this as an F-15. This coin has a strong strike and nice full rims which is hard to find in this series. I like it myself despite the scratches.
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If the face was not so flat, I'd go Fine for the sharpness grade, but looking like that I would say VG-10 for sharpness, dropped to a "details" grade for the scratches.

I own "the perfect Fine-12" 1797 Half Dime, which has the same obverse design. It's now in an NGC VF-20 holder. I wish I could post pictures, but I need a hosting site now that Photobucket has decided to "get greedy."
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