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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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New addition to my collection. Thoughts on grade and problems? Thanks! Shown closer to actual size:   Shown larger for detail:   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
08/07/2017 4:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd take a stab and say MS62, cleaned obverse, PL reverse.
(Please note I stink at grading silver and gold coins)
Edited by RoyCoinBoy
08/07/2017 5:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Clearly a details (cleaned) coin, possibly a mishandled proof.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Cleaned at some point, but still a lovely coin. I'm in the 62-63 camp on this one.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Does look like a proof. Reverse looks 63-ish, with good cameo contrast. Obverse is badly hairlined from an abrasive cleaning. Unfortunately this piece has probably lost 30-40% of its value due to the cleaning.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Impaired proof perhaps? That reverse sure looks cameo.
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Valued Member
United States
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Nice details, MS-62. Would be interesting and expensive conversation piece if a collector resorted to cleaning a proof coin due to PVC damage?
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11910 Posts |
Looks like some of you nailed it. 950 proof quarters were struck in 1872 and coin facts estimates that 650 survived. Most are in choice and gem proof grades, so many graded better than this one. PCGS has graded just 7 at PR60 and this is the only auction record of a coin in this grade I can find. I think that it is a mishandled proof. Loved the obverse toning. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on grade.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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It looks better than a 60 in the last set of images.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks. The coin is certainly hairlined in the right obverse field and I think it was wiped. It is fairly faint and is a toss up as to whether it should be detailed - I would agree either way. I think that the coin's value derives mostly from the striking deep blue obverse toning and its survivorship numbers at 650 coins. That number doesn't make it rare, but scarce. The reverse was a surprise because it has a nice orange-peach even brilliant toning throughout. Love the coin more than when I first saw it in the catalog.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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