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 to the forum,  that is a beautiful Coin  I can't tell for certain,the intense gold and purple and blue toning is alarming to me  so I am leaning towards artificially toned,I'll wait for others to chime in. |
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Lovely coin. Unfortunately someone has dip cleaned this coin and then applied a artificial toning.
As a GENERAL rule of thumb, regular toning gradually changes color, even if it is fully rainbow toned. Artificial toning is splotchy and spotty.
That rule might have an occasional exception, but it's true far more often than wrong.
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moxKing,
Interesting observation.For my information, can you please explain the ** dip cleaning ** process and how to identify a coin having been dip cleaned, what is the signature?
Thanks,
Mike
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Looks like a coin that was stripped, and colored artificially.
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A copper coin that is dipped will never ever have the same color as one that is untoned or that tones naturally. On this example the areas that hasn't been covered with the artificial toning exhibits that 'never ever' dipped color.
For anyone interested in learning to spot cleaned or dipped or Retoned coins I suggest you use some coins that have no chance of having collector value and actually do the unthinkable by performing those tasks.
Photo before, photo afterwards, blow up and compare the results and you will be able to spot those problems much more readily.
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I don't think it's stripped since the cartwheel effect is there. Can a coin be stripped and have a cartwheel effect? However, I appreciate this opinion upon the occurrence of dipping and all opinions on the matter . Thanks
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Hey Doc! That yellowish color is what I get when I use a product called "Tarnix". A tarnish remover for silver wear that works well to spot clean silver coins. ( done some and one can't tell, not a total dip). If I then use some apple cider vinegar, soak and immediate heat dry(1500w hair dryer) a shiny yellow/gold cent will turn & look just like that. Want to buy a few?  Edited by Crazyb0
08/17/2017 3:54 pm
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AT, too bad. to the CCF! |
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I am always a bit suspicious of older coins that should have otherwise acquired a rich dark patina. Red coins are about, but rainbow toning coins can be produced in shed jobs, and so make me . I notice that plain 1910 Cents have a relatively low value in MS60, especially when you compare them with MS60 Cents in the the 1909 to 1916 date range. I reason from this that the 1910 plain would be the cheapest least risk coin in MS60 to fool around with the toning. |
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If you charge me $7 bucks like this one did and put it on a 1910 or 1909 that look like this...I'll take all you got! So a mix Tarn-X some apple vinegar.....what do they use on the really bad Lincoln cents that look ugly as well as toned like someone threw paint on a wall?
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Artificial color .  |
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Toning is nothing more than a chemical reaction to the inherent elements of a coin. I consider toning to be an abberation upon a coin due to improper storage, handling or artificially produced/introduced. I also consider it to be damage to the coin and in extreme cases such as "rainbow" toning on a copper(bronze) metal as Unnatural, much the same as if it were the bluish/green copper oxide, in lay terms, rust! Because it is therefore a damaged coin, value plummets. It would be quite the enlightening experience to apply such safe solutions a pure acetone or xylene to your 1910 cent and see what happens. Generally, those coins I've screwed with, the "pretty" colors will rub off with a dab of mineral oil or completely disappear leaving a two-toned disaster.  |
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For 7 bucks. I'm buying this all day. I would still be happy with it. Well done IMO.
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Posted 08/17/2017 1:45 pm
