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 Posted 08/22/2017  10:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinut8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi,

I need some help identifying these old Chinese silver coins along with dates. any help would be greatly appreciated.

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 Posted 08/22/2017  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Unfortunately, all are tourist copies/counterfeits of very rare silver dollars from the late 1800s to early 1900s. Genuine specimens are incredibly valuable, but these copies outnumber genuine coins by a wide margin.

1: https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...duid-1289044

2: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4100.html

3 http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coi...in_coin=4792
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 Posted 08/22/2017  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinut8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the other two are counterfeit, but I dont think the auto dollar is. The last coins I sent to PCGS, they all came back graded. How can you tell?
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To me the auto dollar looks fake as the words look bloated. The Kiang Nan text looks a little bloated too. The memento dollar look promising but I'm no Chinese coin expert.
So better wait for more experienced members to chime in.
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First and most basic test is to see if these are magnetic. Most fakes are cheap and often made of magnetic alloys. Silver will "tug" almost imperceptibly at a very strong (rare earth) magnet, but will not stick. You can also use the tissue test (click the link) to distinguish between silver and copper-nickel. If you have an accurate scale, the weight will usually be far outside of acceptable ranges for fakes.

I'll concede that of the three, the Memento dollar might be genuine. The auto dollar is not:

- The grass is all wrong
- The body of the car does not seem raised compared to the rest of the coin
- The headlamps are sloppily engraved and don't point forward

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I just checked the weight, came out to 20g for the Auto Dollar. Looks like you were right. Should I test the momentum dollar by weight? Thanks for your help!
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The Headlights on the car are a dead giveaway...the overall design of the car is very very poor.
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 Posted 08/23/2017  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How on earth did the last coin get graded?!

General rule of thumb - unless you really know what you are getting, the sellers know what they are selling.
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These specific coins have not been sent for grading. What I was saying earlier, is that the last batch of China coins I sent, were authentic. I still have many ungraded coins to send.
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 Posted 08/26/2017  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The memento dollar does look to be genuine, if the weight is right...
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