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I saw today a coin presented as a 1946 S inverted mint mark attributed by a well known coin grading service. This particular issue is my personal favorite and I have many examples in my collection. The ebay seller has sold thousands of coins and I was initially hesitant to point out that I believed it was mis-identified. I challenge any reader of this post to search the specimen and respond whether I am off base with this observation. Has this grading company's standards diminished or is someone asleep at the wheel? Robert |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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have you got the item number,
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New Member
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Valued Member
Canada
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it sure is a high grade................but I don't think it's worthy of MS65
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New Member
United States
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The grade is not important, the specific attribute is what I call attention to. Any other serious collectors opine? Presuming my analysis of this specific coin is correct and it is Not an IMM-001, FS-501 then two thoughts remain; The coin is an outright fake or, It has been grossly mis-identified.(by a highly "reputable" company) reference Lincoln Cent Resource SF Mintmark styles for the 1946 issue, Ball serif mintmark. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First,  I opened up the listing, but I couldn't get the image very clear when zoomed. At first glance, it looks like the ball serif S. So, if it is, couldn't it only be the inverted MM? I'm no expert of this variety. Maybe the ones more knowledgeable will chime in "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'm on a tablet, so I'm limited on size, but I agree that it doesn't look right from what I can see.
However, when I compare my own abilities to those who do identification for a profession and have held the coin in their hands ill usually believe the professional first.
It's not to say mistakes don't happen, but is to say that me looking at a third hand photo isn't cause for me to doubt such an identification.
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Rest in Peace
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I agree with OP. Use reference 1946S-1MM-025 on coppercoins.com which pictures a " Ball Serif" mint mark having two balls(like most of us...oops!  ). Notice the thinning along the upper curve is a match for listed coin. What confuses most is the THREE styles used, Serif(one ball), sans serif(smooth) and ball serif(two balls). Is not the reversed mm have thinning at bottom? I don't know myself.  |
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New Member
United States
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Only one mintmark was inverted, the Ball serif. Even PCGS variety listing for this issue is in conflict with the advertised specimen despite the attribute. Have referred this to an actual expert for interpretation. Will hope to report back soon, meanwhile happy hunting!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't know the variety well enough to comment as to whether or not it is right, but I have been saying for over 25 years to never trust the variety attributions by the top two grading services. They have gotten a lot better but are still wrong about 10% of the time. On oledr slabs it could be 50% of the time or more. PCGS just recently began guaranteeing their attributions, NGC does not.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Welcome,marcomsf! Indeed, it is wonderful when the expertise concentrated in this forum gets added to. Don't fade on us! There is much valuable information available in the bar to the left < which is free to access. I look forward to your future posts! My area of specialty is chocolate coins. |
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United States
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Advantage of chocolate coins to me is that their state will remain the same within the grade, sometimes red coins due to various reasons can degrade in both grade and color, agree? Unless you are referencing chocolate chocolate coins? #128523;
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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He means chocolate chocolate coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It could also be a shadow at the bottom of the mint mark keeping us from seeing it clearly.
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Posted 08/23/2017 4:15 pm
