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This Tuesday Heritage has a large lot of lowgrade early colonial coppers coming up for auction. I think someone is selling off a large collection. They have twenty four 1787 New Jersey coppers for sale as well as a few other New England issues. Thought I'd give you guys the heads up. https://coins.ha.com/c/search-resul...wLots-071713Edited by MikeF
08/30/2017 9:57 pm
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Coins from 1787 are not colonials. The colonies were no more after US Independence in 1776.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Wait til Coinlover1899 sees this! Wish I could begin to afford a bid...
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The commonly used terms are pre-Federal coinage, or "state issues", but most of us old timers still call them colonials nevertheless, even if it's not "technically" correct.
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It's a free country  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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And thank goodness - we are no mere colonists! :)
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Edited by MikeF
08/31/2017 01:43 am
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If your looking for affordable colonials look no further. Thanks for sharing  |
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Appreciate the note. I've been cautiously considering a few of the state issues to begin my first date book, and ill definitely sniff around that bunch.
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Coins from 1787 are not colonials. The colonies were no more after US Independence in 1776. Make that 1783, declaring yourself independent is not the same as actually being independent. They were colonies in rebellion until the Treaty of Paris 1783 that recognized their independence. I believe the proper term is state coins as they were issued by the states under the Articles of Confederation. (Except for the Vermont pieces, those were an issue by an independent country. They received their independence in the same war, but they were not part of the Confederation.) |
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You can feel free to recognize our independence from the British in 1783 if you want. Most people in the United States celebrate our independence as of July 4th, 1776. That date is also recognized as the day of the birth of our nation.
Our Declaration of Independence was our affirmation that we were no longer colonies of the British crown. Further affirmed by winning the Revolutionary War. I'll go with that.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
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Wait til Coinlover1899 sees this! Wish I could begin to afford a bid... Crazy, I got excited when I saw this link, I am bidding on heritage's early copper auction. They have a 1795 reeded edge in it (probably a $450,000 coin)! Thanks for the link, I will have to check the coins out in it. |
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Student: You are essentially applying historical political terminology to the hobby. While you are not technically "wrong", you should be using known and accepted numismatic terminology. Typically people use the terms: colonial, post colonial, pre-federal, and federal.
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