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Ottoman Empire, 1223/25 AH (~= 1832 AD). Can't give the denomination without the size.

Also, your pic is upside down
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@N anderson, first welcome to CCF. Second, a diameter and a pic of the other side of the coin would be great.
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It's almost an inch and a half in diameter and this is as much as I know about the coin I was told it's upside down! I will have to dig the coin out and get a picture of the other side will post soon.

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1.5 inches is 38.1 millimetres, so if it is almost that, the highest match lower than that would be the 2 1/2 kurush denomination (which is equal to 100 para). And that denomination is 35 millimetres. There were two different types made in 1223/25, which have a slightly different silver content. It looks like the main difference between the two types is the dot located beneath the ribbon on both sides—one type has them, and the other does not. Yours has one on the side shown, and the type that does have them is the latter one with the lower silver content, which can be found here (and the other type is this one, if you are interested in that).
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Here's the other side
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It loos to be 35mm but the is no silver this is a copper coin.
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Well Joseph you certainly found the coin but in a different composition. Mine is the first type with the two dots. Do you mean to tell me this coin is from 1223? They must have made a copper variety as well.
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Looks similar to the 5 Piastres of that date, but Krause reports that coin as at only .170 fine silver.

With endemic corruption, it would not surprise me that the 5 Piastres could well have been produced as a copper coin with only a very thin silver wash, to reproduce the appearance of the low fineness silver coin, at the time it left the mint. Circulation would have removed ALL of the silver from the surface of the coin.
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Do you mean to tell me this coin is from 1223?

Not exactly, since that is in the Islamic calendar. First, here are where the numbers I am talking about are located:

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So, that 1223 at the bottom is the year the ruler at the time began his reign. The 25 at the top is the year of his reign; when this coin was made, it was the ruler's twenty-fifth year of ruling. That is why I wrote the date as 1223/25. Now, because that is in the Islamic calendar, it would need to be converted into the Gregorian calendar, meaning this coin was made around 1832 (as january1may said).


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It loos to be 35mm but the is no silver this is a copper coin.


It might not look silver, but there is probably still silver in it. The purity is only .1700 (17% silver), meaning it is 83% something else (possibly copper). So, because of that, it probably just toned to look more like a copper coin.
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the mint name is just above the date:

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