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1936 Penny "N" Error

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 Posted 09/16/2017  9:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add aussie1984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What is this error called it is not damage it looks like it was done when made

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 Posted 09/16/2017  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably some sort of damage.
A better pic would help.
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 Posted 09/16/2017  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a pressure hit that has moved part of a detail on the coin. This type of movement CANNOT be a die error, the design on the die is INCUSE, a mirror image opposite direction than seen. The "N" would be a chasm on the die, doesn't damage that way. Notice die direction on this chart...


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 Posted 09/16/2017  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Metal displacement from a perfectly placed hit in circulation.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jewlz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very cool looking error
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 Posted 09/17/2017  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBackPenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jewlz it is not an error, it is PMD.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah,probably PMD but you never know,there is always doubt.

I have this 1920 UK Obv. Penny with a clip and a depression on the Rev.and was told by different dealers it was 100% PMD.I noticed when ebay started in Oz. other similar Coins (minus clip) with the depressions for sale.
Jury is out on the clip but the depressions are 100% a Die flaw.... Photos to follow.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No question sideways hit PMD.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Basil, Not too sure where the depression is, but both images are 1920 Aussie pennies, and the theme of your reply appears to about GB Pennies.
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Basil, Not too sure where the depression is, but both images are 1920 Aussie pennies, and the theme of your reply appears to about GB Pennies.


No worries,I'm probably only clouding the issue but just making the point it best to keep an open mind with some suspected PMD.
I was told by Dealers that my 1920 'english' Obverse Penny had PMD on the Reverse,"taken a hit",when it was in fact a Die flaw.
I only realised this when ebay started and I was able to buy similar Coins with the same flaw.
Getting way OT but I thought I better clear(or try to) it up.

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 Posted 09/18/2017  05:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aussie1984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for the advise, it doesn't look like PMD to me but I'm no expert
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Thanks everyone for the advise, it doesn't look like PMD to me but I'm no expert


Same here,no expert,i never had the time or inclination to worry about Varieties or Mint errors for the majority of my collecting life.
It does look like 'hit' but the doubt in my mind is the pristine nature of the surface where the bottom stroke of the first leg of the 'N' should be.
If you get the time throw in a USB Microscope Pic. of the 'N'.

Edit...out of interest I showed the first Pic. to my Brother and his opinion is that the impact(or whatever caused the deformation) has happened in the minting process with the Coin hot,possibly when it was ejected or when hitting the bin.
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