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New Member
United States
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What is the estimated grade for this 1883-O Morgan? Its in a plastic holder.   Thanks in advance!
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Valued Member
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AU58 (only my opinion as I'm just learning. The experts will be along shortly I'm sure)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
992 Posts |
I give it AU 55, for the rim nick and the bag marks on Liberty's cheek, but AU it is.
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New Member
 United States
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Is it AU because of the color of the metal and lack of toning?
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Is it AU because of the color of the metal and lack of toning?
Color isn't relevant; these are scans, which are known to be unable to depict color and luster accurately so one forms no opinion about surface preservation from them. The reason I agree with the lightly-circulated opinions is more about the nature of the few marks which are visible on the coin; some of these nicks don't jibe with experience regarding the marks a Morgan can pick up in bags before circulation.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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looks unc details cleaned. weakly struck obverse.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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What leads you to think cleaned, numismatic student? I don't see any of the hairlines associated with a mechanical cleaning... or are you thinking dipped?
Edited by throughtheireyes 09/20/2017 7:32 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Technical grade AU-55. It's impossible to tell from those scans if it's been dipped, or not. The rim Nick wouldn't detail it. But as far as value is concerned it doesn't make a lot of difference. Not choice, regardless.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, it looks dipped. Surfaces do not look original. I might change my mind if you have pictures that show otherwise.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 09/20/2017 8:07 pm
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New Member
 United States
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What is the best way to photo a coin? Does it need to be removed from the plastic holder? What kind of lighting is better?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I just use my cell phone with a regular light source at an angle (indirect light). Plastic looks clear so I don't think there is need to remove it from the holder.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student 09/20/2017 8:41 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: What is the best way to photo a coin? Does it need to be removed from the plastic holder? What kind of lighting is better?
The best way to image a coin depends greatly upon what you have on hand with which to image it.  Definitely remove it from the holder, though. If you can, establish a stable platform for both camera and coin, nice and square to each other so there's no shape distortion, and trigger the shutter remotely via timer or something so your finger does not induce vibration. Beyond those basics, any further suggestions would depend on the equipment you're using.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I am thinking AU-55 from those pictures.
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New Member
 United States
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Thank you to everyone. This is a great way to start learning how to grade.
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