Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Impeached By Public Indifference

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 29 / Views: 2,044Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
cladking's Avatar
United States
2273 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
No...everyone is missing the point because we are all coin collectors. The real move should be away from paper money and coins. This is the digital age, folks, and in (most of) our lifetimes, we will see the end to "dollars and cents" and the need to carry anything more than a debit card. I won't like it, at first, but I'll get used to it, I suppose.


This process is already occurring but it can't go all the way without limiting our freedom. How do we buy something at a garage sale or flea market without currency. How about that TV your neighbor is selling?

As more computer systems are hooked together how long will it be before your insurance company refuses to allow your credit card to be used to buy a pack of cigarettes or a candy bar?

The simple fact is that all purchases are not able to be paid or desired to be open to public scrutiny. The law makers are not inclined to eliminate currency though it seems apparent they don't want it to trade efficiently either. Their view is probably primarily related to law enforcement.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
189340 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the elimination of the dollar bill and cent. I think the US is so "20th century" in keeping the two. Our friends to the north did not collapse into a quantum singularity when they did it!

I agree that the digital age is here. However, I think we are a very long way from being 100% digital, mostly for the reasons cladking has given. This is not to say we cannot have our own personal card readers someday to take debit/credit cards at our yard sales; it is just that we have a few years to go before something like that is ubiquitous.

Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The political clout behind Crane Paper Co. is rediculous. I do not think a private company has ever had that type of legislative protection given to them. Here is a very informative article from Time in 2006 http://www.time.com/time/magazine/a...86-1,00.html
Pillar of the Community
XavierOfGreen's Avatar
United States
2589 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i say they start minting mils out of alluminum, I'm tired of getting cheated out of my 1/10th of a cent whenever I buy a gallon of gas for $3.499!
Pillar of the Community
hunter20ga's Avatar
United States
1173 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right, CladKing, that there are obstacles yet to be overcome vis-a-vis a cashless society, but never underestimate the power of technology. All it will take is someone in the private sector to find a way to profit from the transition at the same time offering excellent "convenience" and the change will be unstoppable. Look at cell phones, and what has happened to the old can't-live-without-it land line. Or, more pertinently, how Apple's iTunes and iPod have forever completely changed the music industry. All Apple has to do is invent and introduce iMoney as an attachment to their iPod or iPhone (which is really a computer)and you can transfer funds readily from anywhere to anyone. No more boring trips to the bank; no more ordering checks; no more extortionist charges at the ATM. Just one low monthly fee.... LOL (and RFID chips implanted in you and the card so no one can use your debit card because it won't "recognize" them.) You will have instant access to your money, and instant read-out of purchases and remaining balance in your account(s).

It will likely NOT be the government that does away with coins and currency. It will be good old-fashioned capitalism. We already have the technology, though it has to be refined. All we need is the profit motive.

Yes...it won't happen overnight, but when it happens, it will "feel" as though it was overnight. Look how quickly the iPod became ubiquitous. And how text messaging and instant messaging made email nearly obsolete among the under-30 crowd.

People in rural areas may be the last to hang on to their dollars and cents...but urban areas will rapidly shed their usage. All IMHO. And heaven only knows, I've NEVER been wrong before.
Edited by hunter20ga
05/06/2008 1:27 pm
Pillar of the Community
Elimist's Avatar
United States
632 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elimist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep the paper ones.

Imagine trying to go to the strip club with a lunchbag full of dollar coins.

I don't know how the canadians do it.
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sigh...I never understood the process whereby the US Treasury produces our coin and currency. From the very beginning, it seems fraught with inefficiency and back-room deals. I recently read Taxay's "The US Mint and Coinage". What an eye-opener!
Valued Member
inacoffeebuzz's Avatar
United States
204 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think everyone has missed the point of the dollar coin - it's going to serve the same function as the Morgan dollar.

Just imagine the excitement 100+ years from now when the mint starts selling bags of glistening Presidential dollars to a new generation of coin collectors (like they did in the 1950's and 60's with the Morgans) !

(Please note that by then they will be much more rare than the mintage figures suggest after the big coin melt of 2065).

P.S. We will always have some currency and coinage being made, but that's due to the strong Amish voting block .
Rest in Peace
Parklane64's Avatar
United States
2668 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the big coin melt is in 2055.
Moderator
Learn More...
jbuck's Avatar
United States
189340 Posts
Pillar of the Community
ratio411's Avatar
United States
1208 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why do we need SO MANY dollar coins?

Think about what is circulating and what is
being minted...

Sacs
SBAs
The occasional Ike
4 or 5 prez coins
More prez coins to come
ASE in business strike
ASE in burnish
ASE in proof
The occasional rev proof (is that over?)
The occasional special in some set
(remember the gold set with ASE?) I can see that
happening again.
At least 2 commem dollars a year... Many more in an
Olymipic year (or 2)

My point is:
Why can't we have:
Max 2 commems a year... 90%
Max 2 ASEs... 1 proof, 1 bullion
(no special burnish, rev proof, or little
something planted in with a multi-$grand set)
Then, the kicker, a circulating ACE (American Clad Eagle)
It's obvious that the small and gold don't a circulator
make. So make it big and clad, like days of old.
Use the ASE design to keep things simple.

Just my humble, and apparently "so 20th century" opinion.
Pillar of the Community
ratio411's Avatar
United States
1208 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, and no matter how much I disagree with the
new fangled whipper-snappers around here...
I am all for stopping govt waste!
It ain't gonna happen though.
Too many sheeple...
Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Why can't we have:
Max 2 commems a year


There is a current self-imposed limitation of two commemorative programs per year. However, there can be multiple coins in a program, see the three coins of the Blad Eagle program.
Edited by biokemist6
05/07/2008 08:19 am
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 05/06/2008  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few other countries have gone bonkers with commems as well.
Such as what the Royal Canadian Mint has produced since the 90s. When you try to count all the special "collector" issues and their colorized versions, it's enough to cause brain freeze.
  Previous TopicReplies: 29 / Views: 2,044Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.44 seconds to rattle this change. Forums