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Philippine Peso Used In Guam Countermarked By US Admiral F.v. Green

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As per jbuck's request, here is an interesting Spanish peso (5 pesetas) counterstamped General F.V. Green 1899. Guam ordered all Spanish coin in the newly annexed territory to receive this counterstamp.

General F.V.Green, commanding the 2nd Detachment of the Philippine Expedition Force annexed Guam from the S.S.China in August, 1898. In the summer of 1898, Spain lost the Spanish American War and in December of 1898, Spain lost control of the Philippines, Cuba, Puerto Rico and Guam under the Treaty of Paris.

P.L.G.D.D.= Por La Gracia De Dios [By the Grace of God]
Coin was one peso [5 pesetas] and was issued in the name of the "ISLAS FILIPINAS" on the reverse.

Some sources say Franklin V. Green was an admiral and others say he was a general.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Ouch... that is a one year type and the only Philippine coin type with Alfonso XIII as head of state. In VF they easily do $100 or more... It seems that this coin might have been so without the scratches and countermark. Just to assure: I bet some people find this countermark a great thing, to me countermarks are a type of vandalism... but that's just my opinion.

For the admiral / general question. I do believe that according to NATO ranks most officers of rank OF-6 and higher (up to OF-10) are considered general (1 to 5 star generals). Only the marine corps uses traditional naming standards like 'admiral', where the army, air force and military police stick to standardized 'general'. So I'd assume that both are correct.
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That is incredible. I love coins that are counter-stamped for use in a different country than they were issued. Tells such a story. About the scratches, interesting how they go underneath the stamp. Means that they were there back in 1898. Makes them less bothersome to me personally.
Thanks for sharing.
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09/24/2017 09:41 am
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I agree it looks like it was damaged before the counterstamp was applied. These pesos are not common so I would imagine the number counterstamped was not large. The number that have survived is probably much smaller. It has a nice historical tie in, and I would consider the counterstamp to be like those seen in other countries done to make a coin of another country "official" in your country. I would see this as an important coin with little to no wear after the counterstamp (thereby rating it fairly high grade.).
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