Crussader Billion Long Piece But Which?

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vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 09/25/2017 05:46 am I believe I have here a crussader coin. But I can't identify it. You see lyrics alround and a (crown, sign) in the middle of both sides.. Anyone happens to know this one? Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34423 Posts	Posted 09/25/2017 12:12 pm @vince, yikes that it another tough one. It looks to me like one side has a nimbate bust in the center, but I can't make out the central device on the rev nor the inscription on either side. I'm not even sure that better pics would help. Let's see what @bobL says when he is done grading term papers. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
AnYangMan Valued Member Netherlands 91 Posts	Posted 09/25/2017 1:05 pm If you rotate the rev. 180 degrees, you get the bottom of a vertically striped coat of arms; Aragon. On the obverse, if you also rotate it 180 degrees, you can just about see the curved edges of the wings of an eagle. From the colour alone you can observe that it isn't silver, and has to be billion. That leaves me to conclude that it is a billion denaro, from Messina in Sicilly, which at the time was under the control of the Aragonese kings. Looking at the shape of the eagle, yours seems to be minted under Alfonso V, 1442-1458. There is a fair bit of variety within this series, but this looks a little worn to figure out the details. You can just about see the NS of ALFONS right under the eagle, but I am having slight trouble with the rest of the inscription. Care to comment anyone? Could it possibly be a Jaime II? Sweet little medieval by the way! Mika Edited by AnYangMan 09/25/2017 1:08 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 09/25/2017 9:18 pm Good observations, Mika. Report this Post to the Staff
vince1977 Pillar of the Community Netherlands 847 Posts	Posted 09/26/2017 12:48 pm Thanks for this information Mika! Are these type of coins always so small and long? Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34423 Posts	Posted 09/26/2017 4:32 pm Yikes doesn't look like I was very close. Thanks for setting me straight @AYM! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
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