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Big Questions On These Coins ? Who Can Help Me ?

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 Posted 10/05/2017  09:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RomancoinNL to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello ive bought this real big collection and most ive it I have already found. But these next coins are still not clear to me. Can somewan help pick fakes out or if you know what is is let me know.

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 Posted 10/05/2017  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It helps to have one pic per thread; less confusing to discuss that way.

First coin is probably from the 1400s-1600s, although I can't make out any useful details. MONETA NOVA ARGENT just means "new silver money" and indictates that the old penny/denier/whatever standard was swapped out for a more modern system. Lots of countries in Europe used that on their coins, especially in the 16th and 17th centuries.

Third pic are two roman coins, this type:
http://www.tesorillo.com/aes/107/107i.htm

Fourth and fifth pics have two anonymous Byzantine folles, I think 10th-11th centuries? Jesus on the front, and "Jesus, king of kings" in Greek on the back. Can't make out the big one. Someone horribly abused these coins with electrolysis- negligible value left after such harsh cleaning.

Group of coins are too far gone; no detail remaining

Last one I think is a denarius of a young Caracalla. Can you get closer and more focused pictures?
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I will be thinking about that in the futher. And thanks finn for the explainions
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One or two coins per thread please. The two Byzantine coins appear to be a Class B Anonymous folles attirbuted to Romanus III Sear #1823.
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#1 is a denier or 1/2 gros of Charles IV and Nicole (Lorraine, France) - looks like (16)25, Nancy mint. Cracked flan, billon. Scarce but not very valuable, especially in this shape. The date is indicated by two numerals left and right of the eagle's tail, those two numerals are the last two digits of the date.

Obverse: CAR. ET. NIC. D. G. DVC. LOTH. B - Charles & Nicolas, by the Grace of God, Duke of Lorraine (and) Bar / CAROLUS ET NICOLA DEI GRATIA DVX LOTHARINGIAE (et) BARRI

Reverse: MONETA NOVA NANCEII - New Money (minted in) Nancy

Charles IV de Lorraine, Duke of Lorraine and Bar, would let his wife Nicole "Nicolette" de Lorraine, Duchess of Lorraine and Bar, "rule" alongside him for only a year, 1624-1625; after 1625 she was made virtually powerless by the schemes of Charles' father, Francis, Comte de Vaudemont, who contested for and was awarded the Duchy of Lorraine and then abdicated a week later, thereby making his son Charles IV the only authority. Charles tried repeatedly to keep his wife Nicole away from the court, at one point ordering the execution of the priest who had married them by condemning him as a heretic, and later pleading with the Pope to annul the marriage on the grounds that he had never had the right to marry her in the first place. None of his requests were successful, and he was unable to secure a divorce, so she was quite literally kicked to the curb in 1635; Charles married again in 1637 but the Church refused to recognize his marriage. After Charles bore a son with his new "wife", he was excommunicated by the Pope; in case that wasn't enough sin for the Church, he remarried a third time, past 60 years of age, to the 18 year old daughter of the Comte d'Aspremont-Lynden.
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