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New Member
Australia
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Just a question. Are proof sets supposed to be perfect coins or do they have similar errors to the circulated ones?
Outside of the obvious finish difference, are they manufactured the same?
Thanks
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Moderator
 United States
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They should be perfect but they are not. They are made differently than business strikes. Click on Glossary,left side of page and then click on the letter P,scroll down to Proof. There are a few things there to read like proof die,proof set etc.There are known errors and varieties on proof coins. John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Are proof sets supposed to be perfect coins I think the answer is yes. They are proposed to represent the best of the best. Quote:
do they have similar errors to the circulated ones? Also, yes. And that discounts the idea that proof coins are "perfect". There really is no perfect coin. There will always be fault found. But, that leads to errors that are much more interesting than a "perfect" coin.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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10/20/2017 04:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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If all proof coins were perfect, there would be no need to send them to TPG to be slabbed. Based on those TPG results, some indeed are considered perfect, but most are slightly less. |
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New Member
 Australia
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Thanks for the answers. New to the site and had not noticed the glossary. Very handy. Could have saved us all some time had I noticed it earlier.
I bought the 2017 Australian mint set (not cheap). Just liked the way they looked. I was a bit disappointed to find what appears to be rim errors on three of the coins. They are in plastic capsules so hard to really examine.
I was a little surprised, but after your answers, sounds like it may be normal.
Thanks again.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It takes a while to get used to the massive amount of knowledge that's available. We all learn from everyone's questions.
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It takes a while to get used to the massive amount of knowledge that's available. We all learn from everyone's questions. I agree!  to the Community! |
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United States
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If you mean "PF-70" by perfect then no. Of all the proof sets I've broken up I have yet to give one of the cents from the 1970s a PF-67. Usually there are tiny carbon spots or marks to where the coin does not deserve Super Gem (PF-67). Speaking of cents when you are looking at any pre 1956 proof set the first coin you should look at is the cent. If there is a problem coin in the set it usually will be the cent. A pre 1956 proof cent with problems is very hard to sell so at that point you have to put a price on the other four coins as to what you can get out of them.
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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They're usually better than 'normal' coins as they're taken better care of. But they suffer from the same kind of errors as the productions process is intrinsically the same.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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United States
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Quote: proof coins are essentially perfect, so there is no need to send them to TPG to be slabbed. Doing so is a waste of money and buying them slabbed is supporting the scam fixed |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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No proofs arent perfect coins and can suffer some dmg as the coin is handled, or the polishing of the die. There have been errors where the mint forgot a mint mark, double striking (very collectible).
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nope, they are not perfect. You'll usually find scratches on the coins and dings as well.
Errers and Varietys.
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