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1988 10 Cent: Anyone Seen An Error Like This Before?

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1988 10 cent with line through centre with stamp over the top. The obverse is unaffected.

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It appears that the blank has been struck across the diameter with a straight edge object before being fed into the coining press.
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@sel_691, I thought that as well, but wouldn't the device line not be there going across the groove/slice? I don't understand how there could be metal there if there is no metal to strike
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Has to be an error of some sort; the design has been over struck on the groove.

I agree: it is difficult to understand why the over struck design doesn't seem to be affected at all.

The groove stops at the rims. That means that the groove must have been there before the blank was made into a planchet.
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Are we certain there is a metal deformity here? Looks like ink to me.
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Looks like ink to me.

I think you may be correct BigSilver ... just heard back from the seller and he says that the line is neither raised nor indented. If this is the case, would this still be considered an error coin as it appears that the line was there before the coin was struck?
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If this is the case, would this still be considered an error coin as it appears that the line was there before the coin was struck?

IDK for sure, but I would think that difficult to prove. The line could have come after the strike, and the higher points rubbed off while the lower points retained the line.
My vote is - not an error.
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just heard back from the seller and he says that the line is neither raised nor indented.


This would lead me to beleive that it is ink as well!

To me, It gives the optical illusion that there is an indented groove in the coin and also explains how the device was able to strike acrossed it.
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Since the mark isn't raised or indented, it isn't a strike issue.

when I enlarged the photo MOST of the raised parts of the coin had no marks... but as you got closer to the 0 on the fern leaves there seems to be black on the high points as well..

someone could've made a mark on this coin and tried not to put any on the high points.... but who would do that and for what gain?! seems like an excessive waste of time.

This leads me to think that someone either marked the coin post mint then tried to clean the mark off of all the high points... weird and fruitless labour but a whole lot less time consuming than marking the incuse areas.

Or - there was a mark on the planchet such as a line with ink or something, and after the strike the highest points where the material was moved to form inside the die.. the mark had been removed... and the incuse portions of the coin the mark remained.


Still in my opinion... not an error
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Could have been a cut line on planchet plate. There are times the length of stock is marked to cut, so as not too long to feed through blanking machine. Usually these lines are at the edges where it wouldn't show on the cutout blanks. Definitely could be what is called "Mint Assisted" error too, like when press operators want to mess with us collectors by throwing already stamped dimes in the cent hopper...
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Are we certain there is a metal deformity here? Looks like ink to me.


Yeah,interesting,any chance at a Pic. of the Obverse?.
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It's some sort of ink mark that has simply worn off the high areas, including the rim.
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Yeah,interesting,any chance at a Pic. of the Obverse?


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just heard back from the seller
Do you think the seller would be prepared to see if the line comes off with a bit of acetone?

I think it's been drawn on by someone with something along the lines of a 'sharpie' and the high points have worn off.
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Do you think the seller would be prepared to see if the line comes off with a bit of acetone?

I asked the seller if he could do this and his reply was 'Already have done the line is a groove across the Coin then it's been stamped with the top print was on metal before stamping at the Mint'.

Maybe I misunderstood his previous answer when I asked 'Is the line raised or a rut?' as the answer was 'The line is under the actual print with the stamp over the top of line'.
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