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New Member
United States
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I found this 1886 O at an estate sale. I'm wondering if this is a once in lifetime MS find or an AU imposter? Please advise.   *** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ****** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Stars not well defined (obv.),
but breast feathers are. (rev.)
I suspect rev. die fresher than obv. die.
I would go for MS with weak obv. strike.
I would like to like to look at Lib's hair above the ear, at 30X, may show up scuffing on the high points.
Don't worry about doing this, because a TPGrader examines at only 10X, and should still give MS grade.
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Moderator
 United States
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 to CCF. What is the yellowish dot on the C in America? John1  |
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New Member
 United States
10 Posts |
The dot was just a piece of fuzz/debris that was on the counter. I only noticed it after the picture was uploaded and it was quickly removed with some air before returning it to its holder.
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Moderator
United States
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The lack of separation between the rims and the denticles could indicate wear. I have seen AU graded examples with more detail to the hair over the ear than on this coin. Although you provided large photos, there is still has a lot of glare and the reverse is not crisply focused.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I would guess this was probably once sold as an MS example. It looks like it was dipped to appear MS as well. Any sign of cartwheel lustre remaining in the fields?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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ms62-63ish
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My instinct is slider AU-58.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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New Member
United States
10 Posts |
Here is the best magnification of the hair above the ear I can get. As for "cartwheel luster", the reverse seems to have a faint cartwheel, but obverse appears to be lacking.  |
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Moderator
United States
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With the understanding that lighting and photography technique could play a role in the "look" of the coin, I'm seeing a slightly-circulated example just below the cusp of real added value. Like dave700x, I doubt the surfaces are original.
This is an issue which explodes in value in Mint State. Therefore, one has to assume the worst in terms of peoples' motivation to doctor them to appear Uncirculated when they're not, and this rarity has been common knowledge for half a century.
According to Q. David, in 1965 Harry J. Forman (a well-known, pacesetting dealer of his time, the man who discovered the Small Date Lincolns of 1960) offered the ridiculous (for the time) sale price of $375 per roll for Mint State 1886-O's. The price was possible because basically nobody else had them for sale....
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Valued Member
United States
484 Posts |
Not MS. Luster is washed out, dipped/clean. AU details.
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Gotta agree with the AU, details, cleaned.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
11922 Posts |
AU-58, and quite possibly Details.
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United States
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