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Albums Vs Certified, And Where To Look

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I've collected off and on now for 40+ years. Now that I have more time to devote to this hobby I find myself trying to figure out what to do. I love the look of older worn coins in albums but have found it to be difficult to find raw coins that has not been cleaned to some degree. My LCS does have some of what I'm looking for from time to time but mostly coins I'd rather not have. I refuse to buy raw coins off ebay. Looking to start a type set and a Walking Liberty set but with few places to go. I don't have to have the highest grade possible but just a nice looking, not cleaned, coin. If any of you have somewhat of the same problem do you then go to certified? What did you do to solve your problem? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading this post.
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A lot of people do graded sets. You can even get albums that have pages for certified coins now, Lighthouse makes some and there might be others.

If you really really wanted a raw album you can crack out the cheaper certified coins, doing so on high end coins usually results in losing money in the long one but that can be done are well. Some dates/coins might have to be regraded either way before sale like a Trade dollar from a type set.
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Sounds like you're headed toward buying certified coins, which is a good idea if you don't totally trust your own eye and won't buy raw off the internet. The typically higher cost of certified coins is usually offset by your comfort level, and as long as you have return privileges, buying certified coins on, say, ebay would then be a viable alternative for you. The only drawback is the sheer bulk of a certified collection housed in specialty albums - it mounts quickly. Cracking makes no economic sense for scarcer issues, so consider all factors up front, including the cost of the albums, which is not cheap.
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I would have no problem cracking a lower grade coin to fill an album hole.

There is always the option of building two sets. One lower grade in the album, the other higher grade with certified coins. Perhaps while doing it you will prefer one over the other, or you might want to keep both. Just something to consider.

Almost 25 years ago I completed an Eisenhower dollar set in a Dancso album. I will never upgrade the coins in it, nor will I sell that set. However, that did not stop me from recently starting a second set with certified coins.
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Hi rc57, I've been collecting for close to 40 years myself. Many of my coins were acquired at shows and trusted coin shops before certification was popular so I have a good mixture of both raw and certified. My solution was to create two sets, an album for my raw coins and a certified set, Since I've been doing this awhile, I'm not afraid to acquire a raw coin from a trusted source to fill a hole in my album. There are a few online dealers like Rare Coins of New Hampshire, Gerry Fortin, and Brian Greer that still have some raw coins that I would have no problem purchasing. Some of these are nice original coins like the ones you want. There are other dealers out there as well but these are ones that come to mind. I've also cracked out coins from their certified holder to place in my album. Most times I've ended up regretting that decision as something better always comes along or I get tired of it. I've never purchased a coin off ebay and instead would rather establish a relationship and work with someone I trust. Good luck!
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Have been working through the same situation.

Simple solution. If I have a slabbed coin for my set, I place an UNC current date in the spot in my album. Depending on the coin series, usually the reverse is showing first - that way I know I have a slabbed coin for this spot in my set.
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I collect by date, rather than series, and for me the combination of raw in 12 or 20 pocket pages and certified in 9 pocket in the same album, dispersed in order rather than segregated, is ideal.

I have a previous bank vault so space is no problem. The obvious choice is to have fewer better coins.

I very much enjoy pulling an album out, sitting by the light, and appreciated the history and beauty of those coins temporarily in my care.
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I like Albums. I have well over 100 of them. Mostly Whitman but also many other brands. Since they are not out on display, makes no difference how they look. If you find a coin show in your area, try that instead of on line places like ebay. I've always found best deals at a coin show.
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My income is low enough, and the coins I collect are scarce enough that I don't care if the coins have been cleaned or not. I'm just happy to have one. I can't afford to be picky.
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Thanks for the input everyone. Over the years I've completed Peace dollar certified date set, year and mint album set. Morgan certified date set and album date set. I like the idea of both but like moxking idea of collecting certain dates of different series. Morgans and Peace will always be my favorites but I do like different series so maybe look for key, semi key dates of those. I suppose there would be many many ways to choose dates. Now finding a dealer somewhere to trust in buying raw coins. Any suggestions?
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Thanks for the input everyone. Over the years I've completed Peace dollar certified date set, year and mint album set. Morgan certified date set and album date set. I like the idea of both but like moxking idea of collecting certain dates of different series. Morgans and Peace will always be my favorites but I do like different series so maybe look for key, semi key dates of those. I suppose there would be many many ways to choose dates. Now finding a dealer somewhere to trust in buying raw coins. Any suggestions?


I may be misreading what you're saying, but if you're thinking of doing a raw key/semi-key date type set I would definitely recommend against that approach
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Mainly talking about instead of trying to complete certified or album set of several series , maybe just choose certain key dates/mint of those series. As far as a type set I think I'd go with certified.
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I have both raw and slabbed coins, and while the collections often dictate storage methods, sometimes there is an overlap.
My world type collection is graded About Dirt (Its a new grade.)
But sometimes I get a slabbed coin for the collection, and like to have it represented in the physical collection.
I put an empty 2x2 in the box and color code it with a blue stripe. I am still able to write on the 2x2 and have a reminder of it's existence, so that I don't purchase a duplicate.
Should you be an imbalanced as I, you can fill the 2x2 with a photocopy of the actual coin.
Red indicates low mintage for the series, yellow indicates silver content, green needs verdi-care, and black is a damaged coin.

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