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Let's Research The 1994 DDR FS-101 Further!

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Here's a spectacular theory:

1994 FS-801 is a tripled die.

I don't see any mention of this anywhere, but just looking at some images there is some subtle evidence of this being a tripled die, not just a doubled die.

Here's my evidence (John Wexler's images of a coin owned by Joseph Koelling from doubleddie.com are being used.):

2nd Bay: Two corners visible
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3rd Bay: Two extra planters visible
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11th Bay: Distance between fluting of actual column and extra column is different. Two corners visible.
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You have a good theory, but if it is observed from the left direction it might be the doubling from the left column which seem to have a same spacing in between fluting as those you have marked as 1&2.
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Did you factor in the normal 3D effect the mint tried to do?
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Chase007:
You are completely right, doubling in the 11th bay is from the left column. Spacing between fluting on the doubled column is not a valid piece of evidence for this to be a TDR.
However, I don't think this explains the multiple extra floors and planters in the bottoms of bays 2, 3, and 4.

Joh1:
I've never heard of this, can you please elaborate?
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You have a great theory and I'm excited to see what the others think. Even if it's not a Tripled die, it's still a great theory. :)
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The U.S. mint made some of the columns look three dimensional. 1-6-7-12 columns look like there are two columns,some people think it is a doubled die when in fact it was an attempt to look 3d.
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John1:
Oh yeah, I knew about that. I've never heard it being referred as that. Since it doesn't affect the 2nd or 3rd bay and since the doubled column in bay 11 is actually column 11, it doesn't prove why there are two extra floors or planters. The theory still stands.
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I gave a little thought to this theory. I used three different DDR's for a comparision:
Left bays areas compared:
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Right bay areas compared:
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Right and left overlay of the affected areas:
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So what are you thinking coop?
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It might be a hub mark on the left side. But I don't think it is a tripled die. The single squeeze dies came in about this time. Usually only the central area of the die received the different hubbing on them. So this might still be a multi-hubbed die. That would explain why the outer areas were affected. So that area on the left might be part of the doubled die. The three examples I checked show evidence of this on all three dies. So something maybe focusing on this area now.
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