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This coin weigh 3 grams. Struck on aluminum. Size is slightly smaller then a nickel. Please some one help me out and provide me with some answers. This should have been much bigger and heavier. Should have been struck on gold. Wasn't aluminum more valuable then gold and silver during that time?   |
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Can you post a pic of the reverse and the edge?
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The reverse is severely damage  |
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I really believe what you have is a fake. I'm, admittedly, not the first person to go to for that but, there were some 1885 $5 patterns struck on aluminum. However, the diameter is wrong and should be a little larger than a nickel. The edge should be reeded.
The main point is that these should be proof quality and would never have endured the wear/damage (whether legitimate or artificial) of yours.
My best guess is an attempt to recreate (fake) a rare pattern $5.
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In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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The edge is reeded. Although worn and damage it's still visible.
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Modern cast fantasy copy.
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@jimson, could you also please post a pic of the edge? It may be reeded, but it would be interesting to see if the reeding was applied by hand and/or if there is a parting line.
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This piece has a San Francisco mintmark which I think confirms it's not a genuine pattern. All pattern coins (which were sometimes struck in aluminum) were made at Philadelphia.
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It's a fake. I wonder if it is contemporary and meant to circulate, like the plated V nickels. Maybe tin instead of aluminum? When the plating comes off the underlying detail can be pretty mushy, as this fake French 2F shows (supposed to be silver).  Here's a fake 1869-S half eagle with half the plating off. The core is platinum! That was a cheap metal at the time. http://www.coinnews.net/2010/04/20/...-exhibition/"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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11/15/2017 7:10 pm
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Here is the picture. As you can see it is Reeded although it's worn.  |
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if This was a fake then this would be the first of its kind or at least first one found of its kind. It just doesn't add up though. Why make such an obvious fake as far as size, weight, and medal. Why would some one go such length to create nonsense?
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This coin was likely a the same size or a bit bigger before the wear.
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The reeding 'wear' does not look genuine. Too much 'wear' (artificial) on the reeding for the relatively little amount of wear on the obverse. Also, the denticles don't look right, and have a 'candy corn' look to them. That's a key point for ID'ing fakes. The damage on the reverse also looks fake, in an attempt to cover up the poor casting. PMD aside, the reverse is void of any detail. Why create it? Why not. Never ask why someone did something years ago - nobody has the answer. |
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