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Help Me - What Does GSA Refer To?

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I have been looking at Morgans, and I noticed that some of them are referred to as GSA Morgans.

For example (see link below) - "Morgan 1882-CC GSA Hoard". Who or what is a GSA?

http://www.northeastcoin.com/popupc...nventory.jsp



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05/12/2008 08:11 am
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 Posted 05/12/2008  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add m9frank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
General Services Administration, a gov't agency that, among other things, puts gov't assets up for bid to the public.
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 Posted 05/12/2008  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

m9frank,

Thank you so much, you have just stopped my brain from exploding with curiosity!

Snooba.

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In the 1960's the US Treasury discovered that it was holding a large number (almost three million!) of Morgan dollars, all Uncirculated and almost all Carson City mintages. It was decided to liquidate them thru sale to the public, and the General Services Administration was tasked with conducting the liquidation. They chose the packaging scheme, and conducted sales starting in 1972. There were two batches; the first was judged to be superior coins, and included numbered Certificates of Authenticity. The plastic holder reads CARSON CITY above the coin, and UNCIRCULATED SILVER DOLLAR below. If you're buying, be looking for these. The second group consisted of lesser, but still Uncirculated, coins and did not include a numbered COA. It reads CARSON CITY above, and only SILVER DOLLAR below.

NGC grades these coins while still in the original plastic, and applies a special labeling to the container. The first batch, as described above, generally grades MS63 and better. It should be noted that many of these have been cracked from the GSA plastic over the years for TPG grading, and those remaining in the original GSA packaging will be a sub-group of Morgans which will undoubtedly appreciate at a greater rate than normal.

They currently trade at a premium to "regular" graded Morgans. Not a great premium, and not as great as they will in the future, and "bargains" are to be had. These are a "Strong Buy" in my opinion, if obtained at a good price.
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SuperDave,

Thank you so much for your detailed answer! I really appreciate the information.
I had no idea of the different releases, and the significance of the certificate.
When I've saved up enough to make a CC purchase, I'll try to get one of those!

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You're quite welcome. It's a fascinating story - where else but the United States could the government "misplace" and forget about seven tons of Silver Dollars?

It was, for a time, very difficult for them to find buyers for GSA Morgans. It took almost ten years to sell them all.
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The uncirculated GSA common CC (1882, 83 and 84) can be had on ebay for under $200 usually, which is a great price in my opinion. If you do buy them, make sure the holder says "Uncirculated silver dollar" and the certificate of authenticity is with it. I've seen many sellers sell these coins without the certificate, or sell the ones labeled "Silver Dolalrs" with a certificate- making you think it is the higher quality one. Sure, you can buy the GSA CC silver dollars that are labeled simply "Silver dollars", but be careful not to overpay for those.
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If you do buy them, make sure the holder says "Uncirculated silver dollar"

Actually if it doesn't have "Uncirculated" on the holder it means it has some type of toning or something on the coin because as far as I know all of them were Uncirculated grades
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where else but the United States could the government "misplace" and forget about seven tons of Silver Dollars?

It wasn't really a matter of misplacing them. All of those silver dollars in the Treasury vaults were backing the $1 and $5 silver certificates. Since silver certificates were discontinued and FRNs were issued, that metal backing was no longer necessary.
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Where do they get the certificates for the "plain" silver dollar ones? Mine, is a plain '83 with a small area of toneing near the rim on both sides and it has a certificate like the one Snooba linked to. and as for grade, it certainly looks to me at least a 63.
The cert # is 83242003, compared to the linked ones # of 82393766
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like I said, just because it doesn't say "Uncirculated" doesn't mean its uncirculated, just the GSA didn't label any coin that had toning as Uncirculated but each coin in a GSA slab is Uncirculated. At least I have never seen a AU GSA coin. The certificates for the ones labeled Uncirculated are the same as the ones that are not labeled as Uncirculated
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