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Newbie Question: How Do You Store Your Modern Coins?

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I'm getting back into the hobby after a very long hiatus and was wondering how most collectors store their (non-slabbed) series collections. I know Whitman folders that I used decades ago are still available as well as several other choices... what is most popular? Do people prefer keeping them in 2X2's to minimize the risk of accidental scratching (and ease of rearranging)? For myself, I'd rather spend a little more and make sure my coins won't be damaged than save a few cents. What are some of the best options?
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I have my Franklin halves, and my wheat cents in Dansco albums. The rest are organized in 3 ring binders and 2x2's.
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In generality, the goal of storage is to prevent the influence of humidity and oxygen-based corrosive reactions on the coins.

2x2's are the most popular enclosure due to their inexpensive ubiquity, and they're quite "good enough" in combination with other levels of storage enclosure which I'll touch on in a minute. They have the disadvantage of needing staples to hold closed, which introduces a danger which can be minimized by using a flat-clinch stapler and not rolling your collection around in a lottery-pick-style number drum.

There are also fans of the mylar-flip method, exemplified by SaFlip holders although there are many others. These have the advantage of relatively easy coin removal, but when built of the right material it's possible that the coin scraping against the sides could impart scratches. I am switching from them to 2x2's myself.

At the pinnacle of coin enclosures are Air-Tites and the like, round plastic capsules which form a near-airtight seal (not perfectly airtight, but the exposure effectively rounds to zero). They are expensive, and more difficult to to get into the next-level storage box or whatever, being round. Mention must also be made of CoinEdge holders, a 2-piece, square container which presses together around the circumference of the coin and forms a tight seal while leaving the rim of the coin clearly visible for inspection without opening it. These will store more easily in a box, but less-easily in album pages. Their manufacturer makes album pages for them.

Raw coins in albums are problematic. There is "archival quality" cardboard available, so-defined by the lack of acidity in their construction, but it can be expensive and difficult to find, and is it really that "archival" or is the manufacturer stretching the truth or underthinking the timeframe? The additional danger is, the album will absorb and hold any environmental condition like humidity or chemical exposure.

The danger here is acidity and sulfur content in the cardboard, which will, over time (some albums much less time than others) cause corrosion. When it's "pretty," we call it toning and pay extra for the coin (go figure), but when it's not we pay less for poor eye appeal or refuse to grade completely. And the typical reaction resulting in "pretty" - the reaction with sulfur to create a metal sulfide - isn't the only reaction it can prompt.


Now, at the next level, you're going to have to put all of those flips or capsules into something, or the size of your collection will be defined by the size of your desk.

Slabbed coins are easy - there are good plastic boxes sized to hold twenty or so of them at a time. As long as they're all from the same TPG, because capsule size differs....

....but you want to store raw coins. First thought are the typical cardboard 2x2 holders we see in such enormous quantity at shows. They're of a perfect size, and will hold a ton of 2x2's.

So, how much sulfur is in that cardboard again? There are brands out there who use sulfur-free materials. Due diligence will uncover reliable sources for them.

There are also plastic boxes sized for 2x2's. Here's an example:

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/fil...2x2-box.html


OK, now you've got your coin flip/capsule/2x2's, and the box to hold them. You're good, right?

Wrong. Now is when the actual protection starts.

Those boxes are going to have to go someplace, or you'll still be size-limited by the dimensions of your desk. The place they go can either be advantageous or the greatest danger your coins will face. Many furniture finishes outgas chemicals which can be damaging, in many cases for years or even decades after their manufacture. Heck, even your desktop could be dangerous to the coins you have laying on them for study....my desk is an inert plastic folding table, quite deliberately.

The nature of the cabinet/box/closet in which you're going to place your coins needs careful consideration. Ammo boxes are popular, and useful, as long as they're brand-new (imagine the ingredients in ammunition, and the interior coating absorbing the outgassing of those ingredients for decades before you own it....) yet old enough for the inside paint to have "cured." Hard plastic totes/boxes are a good solution, as well.

But here's the gist of this post, the punchline I've made you endure this no tl;dr Wall O' Text™ to reach:

No storage method is effective until you've formed an air- and water-tight barrier at some level. Despite your best efforts, the dangers to your coins exist at a molecular level and that means they can reach your stuff through some pretty tiny holes indeed, especially when viewed in the timeframes of long-term storage. This is going to sound downright obsessive, but at some level of containment you want your long-term holdings enclosed in waterproof and vacuum-sealed bags with dessicant packs and a sacrificial Cent or two (to be the first things which react with any introduced corrosive elements). A food-grade Ziplock with the air pushed out does fine for this. If you're really on your game, you heat seal them instead of zip-sealing.

Now is where a whole bunch of anecdotal evidence will appear from other posters who never take such drastic measures, and have never had any problems at all. They're all telling the truth. They're also all proof of the same concept that even though someone always wins the lottery, a whole lot of other someones never even come close. The only way to conclusively avoid winning the lottery is not to play.

Don't play the lottery. You might just win.

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I use the self sealing 2x2's to block anything getting into the coins. I've used them since they were introduced some 30 years ago.

I've never had a single coin spot or tone in all that time.

No staples and you have a much larger area to write on without the staples taking up space.

Plus, if you make a mistake or want to change something you have written, you use a Sharpie permanent marker, and with a dab of fingernail polish you can remove the writing.

They are about $12 per hundred.
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I use Coin World Premier Coin Holders, it's like a slab, but you just insert your coin and close it up. You can re-use them for any coin you want.

I like storing the slabbed stuff with the non-slabbed stuff, it's just simpler, I think, so the CW holders allow for that. I print up a label for the holder and box them up.
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Agree that self-sealing 2X2s are great.
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I've never used the self-sealing 2x2s but, I'm interested. I see a couple brands on ebay: Supersafe and BCW. What is the best?

I assume these are one-and-done holders and not reusable once sealed and broken open again.
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Thanks for the input so far everyone! I'd love to hear what others have to say too...

SsuperDdave: I can see where you're coming from with your recommendation to ultimately have a coin in something air tight. It may take decades for Brownian Motion to get any reactive gasses to a coin, but I'd rather not have to worry about it. Are TPG slabs air tight?

You also mentioned that capsule sizes differ between TPGs. That's rather irritating. I assume that holds true for the two main companies, correct? Then how does one organize their slabbed coins? I would hate to have to keep track of which company graded a coin in order to be able to quickly locate it, and I don't want to pass on a nice coin at the right price just because the other company graded it. I was hoping that I could just label boxes of slabs " Morgan dollars 1890-1904" or whatever to organize them.

Since I've started talking about slabs... are cardboard boxes the way people typically store them? Do you typically leave space in each box for new acquisitions?
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You also mentioned that capsule sizes differ between TPGs. That's rather irritating. I assume that holds true for the two main companies, correct?


The NGC slabs are slightly narrower and taller than PCGS slabs. I only own a handful of slabbed coins and have a PCGS Blue Box (plastic). The top won't close if the NGC slabs are upright so, the two I have are laying on their sides for now until I add more slabs and need an upgrade.

There are also 9-pocket binder pages made for slabs that will hold all the standard sizes. And, yes, the slabs are made to be air-tight.
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My opinion - Whitman folders suck - go Dansco if you can afford it.
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You can put any size slab from any of the top four companies in 9 pocket binder pages.

I combine pages of 20 2x2 self seals for everything except raw dollars. For the raw dollars I use 12 pocket pages and the 9 pocket encapsulated coin pages all in the same binder.

I would note that I collect by date rather than by series, so organizing this way is easy for me.

I can pull out my binders and all my 1934 issues, as an example, are all together close to one another even though I use all 3 page types for the 14 coins produced that year.
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I simply use Albums. I'm not fussy about which brand since most are very similar. Some are a bit larger so makes it more difficult to line them all up. However, any Albums with high graded coins get put into Zip Lock bags. Many extras are kept in either plastic rolls or 2s2 flips. I do not go along with statements like Dansco brand look so much better since almost everyone hides them away. So then who cares what they look like. I go to lots of coin shows. I ask dealers what they do with Albums they buy full of coins. Most say they put all coins in flips and sell separately and then throw out the Albums. I've asked for those and in many, many instances I get them free so why worry about what brand.
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Most of my coins are in Dansco albums. I do have coins in 2x2 holders, but those are in Dansco albums made to hold them.
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All of my coins are in Dansco albums. Some, including some proofs, have been in the albums as long as 20 years with no problems.
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Some, including some proofs, have been in the albums as long as 20 years with no problems.
Very nice!

I will have to add that my oldest Dansco albums will be 33 years old next month.
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