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1909-2007 Lincoln Cents In Dansco Missing Some Keys

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Paid $212.50 for this set of 1909-2007 Lincoln Cents with proof-only issues. I am completely ignorant about this series and wondering if I have overpaid.

Seller says it is almost complete as it is missing only the following six key coins: 1909s, 1909s-vdb, 1914d, 1922 plain, 1928s and 1931s.

Thoughts on the set welcome from what can be gathered from pictures below. Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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A few more pics:

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I think I counted 282 coins (36 coins per page X 8 pages - 6 missing keys) in this set. Is a set like this easy to put together? I never really attempted it although I have owned this same dansco album for maybe 20 years with a few scattered coins in it. I don't think I have the patience required for such a large set.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I am completely ignorant about this series


That certainly belies your username. Surely, you know something of the Lincoln series.
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I guess that is a slight exaggeration, but not by much as I have never seriously tried to collect this series. And there is probably a lot to know, this being the longest running design series in US history, now spanning 108 years for the Lincoln obverse. Maybe this will be the vehicle to learn, although I'll never have the depth of the specialists. I feel like a general practitioner diving into a beloved specialty.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/24/2017  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sort of a nice set. Proofs alone are probably worth a lot. And many other keys are there too but in rather poor shape. Such as the 10S, 11S, 12S. Odd no place for the famous 55 and 72 Doubled Dies. My Whitman has place for both of those. You have both 79S ones and my Album does not have slots for both of them. You have a great set for a starter set and if you looked for upgrades, on most would start really costing a lot.
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Thanks. I don't even know which dates are the proofs. Maybe it says in the inside of the back cover. I think whitmans also give the mintage below the date, which I think works better than the way dansco does it again in the inside of the cover.
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Kind of glad I don't have to reach for "back up the money truck" varieties.

Looks like they only call for mintmark varieties? Is that a "thing?"
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The early branch mints along with the '24-D could be worth what you paid so I think it's a good deal. I would check to make sure the '70-s small date is correct. That's a $20 coin when a decent full red example.
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I would check to make sure the '70-s small date is correct


Agreed. The vast majority of the albums I've come across for sale have the 70S and 60 small dates wrong.

The 28S isn't too bad but the 31S will be pricey. Assuming you only want nice circulated coins.
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Thanks Dave. I feel like I'll be checking a lot of coins with basically no idea what I'm doing. I guess you have to start somewhere.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Thanks Bump. Thoughts on what circulated grades I should shoot for for the remaining keys? Is there a wallet pain to pleasing aesthetics sweet spot for the early Lincolns?
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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In my opinion, consistency is important. You don't want a blazing ms coin sitting beside a vf. It just magnifies the deficiencies in the lower grade coin. I buy the grade matching the coin's neighbors. Plus, the price rabbits quickly as you climb on some of the early coins.

Personally, a nice xf Lincoln, chocolaty brown with a shine is a beautiful coin. My 31S is a beautiful 40-45 and I wouldn't want a different one.

Edit: I suppose the exception would be Woodies. I have a couple in my Dansco, but I plan to find others to replace them eventually. I love them, but they just don't fit with the others. They will have a prominent place in my 2x2 pages.
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Thanks Bump. Was checking prices and it looks like the 1909-S, 1928-S and 1931-S will be doable in xf40. The 1909-S vdb, 1914-D and 1922 Plain will be more challenging, but I find LWCs look great all the way down to fine and even VG. G seems to lack a lot of detail.

Looking forward to digging in and then going through the endless cycle of upgrades.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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The 1909-S vdb, 1914-D and 1922 Plain will be more challenging


Those are certainly the big three. My Dansco has a slot for the 22 No D. Some don't consider that to be a real variety and don't pursue it for their album. I have a "weak D" there and probably will never spring for another one.

I'm still missing the 09S, 09S VDB, 11S, 12S, 14D and 24D. Been "working on it" for about 30 years. Sounds like you may beat me to the finish line. I hope you do. Have fun!
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Thanks again Bump. I find that there seems to be no finish line in coin collecting. Just a series of intermediate states that can always be improved. [:D}

They say it's the process, not crossing the finish line that matters and somehow I feel that I may have cheated myself out of the most rewarding part of the process which may be building the set from scratch. But the process of matching a 288 coin set seems like borderline torture. The series is so looooonnnnnggggg... And mine doesn't have the last 10 years.

I can see it as a labor of love if done over 30 years.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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