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1969 S Lincoln Memorial-One Cent.ddo?

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At 1st the Double Letter "Y's" in the word "Liberty" Spelling "Liberyy"
Is what caught my eye.then learned of the 1969(s) DDO error on this One Cent Coin & gave this coin another look.i think I see this error on my coin.can anyone verify or unverify this observation .
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 Posted 11/25/2017  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. The YY looks like it took a hit. It is not the big doubled die for that year. I can't tell if it is a lesser doubled die or MD.
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Took a hit to move the metal of T. The date is machine damage, quite normal for this year. Here's the example:
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Hello again 1st thnx guys for your feedback & detailed explanation of the difference between DD & MD errors. I'm posting these pics of the same coin to give a better look at the letter "T/Y" thing.has anyone ever seen this before? Also even though I just read the explanation on the differences between MD & DD errors can you give the letters "I,B,R & Y" in the word "Liberty" or "Liberyy" Lol. and the word "GOD" a look at & give me yr insight.only because I'm still not 100% sure do to the early phased stages of grasping this concept.lol....thnx

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Looks like ya got MD there as it makes the devises slimmer. And there would be no "early" stages of DD - it would be there or it wouldn't
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The 'T' coin was damaged. It can't be a 'Y' as these devices are on the master die complete. So this can't be an error, but just coin damage. It was a 'T' when the die was created.
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This was your originally thread, that is now locked. You should have continued to post on that thread so the discussions continue and aren't repeated.
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Again, I say, "If you need to ask, you do not have it."
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AvA, Again welcome back> I will attempt to show you exactly what is going on on your coin. It is a GREAT example of a VLDS coin, meaning VERY Late Die State, end of it's lifetime die state. On your pix I have marked certain areas in color-coded markings. First is the RED arrows showing a Tilted die strike, making that "second rim". When dies age, metal flows outwards causing all elements to stretch in that direction. Metal will begin to deteriorate, this in late stages is called "die Attrition". Sometimes the stretching pulls the devices apart (YELLOW) or the areas on the edges of the devices are worn away. Remember the die image is reversed, those letters go in, so the die face around them is flat. Polishing to prolong life will wear those edges, and the diamond polishing paste and solvents "fill" these cavities causing a " Struck Through Grease" error. There may be some MD on GOD as circled in YELLOW but this seems more of an attrition problem than strike movement. The BLUE circles show how the devices stretch towards the rim.

You have a variety of things going on, none is true Hub Doubling, just machining errors of a very over used die.

I forgot to mention the T of liberty, took a 45 degree CCW hitfrom just under the right side as it connects to the horizontal bar up and to the left actually forcing metal downeards to the left.


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Got it thnx guys
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