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A Continuing Thread ~ Post Your Tokens, Medals, Exonumia Acquisitions

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 Posted 09/06/2018  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally picked up this one I have wanted for a long time.

1907 Jamestown Exposition - Gilt So Called Dollar
Hibler & Kappen So-Called Dollar HK-347

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Jamestown Tercentennial Expo Official Medal, 1907, struck in the U.S. Mint Exhibit on the grounds of the Expo, Pocahantas pictured on the obverse. Bronze, 34mm
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Three million visitors attended the Jamestown Exposition celebrating the 300th anniversary of the May 13, 1607 landing by the first permanent English settlers in America. Staged in Norfolk by an alliance of Hampton Roads cities, the 340-acre fair featured the rendezvous of more than 50 warships from around the world, including 16 battleships of President Theodore Roosevelt's newly modernized fleet.
President Roosevelt was present for Opening day and on June 10 for Georgia Day.

Ships on display and illuminated at night.
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A very well preserved 1933 Goudey Indian Gum non-sports card
I own of Pocohontas.
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 Posted 09/06/2018  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice TNG
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Although this one could be posted ( as well as a number of my other US minted modern silver medals ) in post your latest US coins or latest acquisitions, I'll post it here cause it is a medal and it's new to me.

I think these are beautiful medals. A US Dollar design like this rather than presidents or Sacagawea dollars would be just fine with me.

2016 W US American Liberty Silver Medal NGC PF69

NGC Look Up certification https://www.NGCcoin.com/certlookup/4509134-035/69/
Coincidently, I bought this W mint a year later after I bought the S mint issue, which is from the same submission batch from the same seller. They both look better in hand than these images.
I have no problem buying PF or MS 69 graded coins or medals. The PF70's in my opinion, could always get carbon or milk spots or have a fingerprint show up on them and the prices I would have paid would be a blow to the selling value down the road. Besides, it is still just a grading opinion.

Here's the new W mint.
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2016 S US American Liberty Silver Medal NGC PF69

NGC Look Up certification https://www.NGCcoin.com/certlookup/4509134-011/69/


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1860's Abraham Lincoln Broken Column Medal Julian PR-37
(restrike)
originals were silver.
US Mint Medal Memorial Token, 19mm Bronze. Designed by Anthony C. Paquet.
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The broken column with scroll symbolizing Emancipation Proclamation. The originals were struck around 1865 after the death of Abraham Lincoln. The restrikes were produced by The US Mint and sold in the 1960's. Quite possibly this one in 1965 as a 100th anniversary restrike.

Paquet was Assistant Engraver of the Mint starting October 20, 1857. He left his official position in 1864.
He died in Philadelphia in 1882.
Paquet produced dies for a new reverse for the twenty dollar gold pieces beginning in 1861. A few were struck and released before the dies were withdrawn because the rims were too narrow. He engraved dies for the first Congressional Medal of Honor.

This is a very special medal to me since it was a gift from CrazyBO. Showed up out of the blue in the mail today and makes a great companion medal to a similar George Washington / Andrew Jackson restrike a posted here.

Thank you Crazy! You're a good egg!
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 Posted 09/07/2018  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful piece TNG . And will agree CrazyB is a very fine person.
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2016 W US American Liberty Silver Medal NGC PF69
2016 S US American Liberty Silver Medal NGC PF69
Lovely! I have those in the OGP. Got lucky and got them from the Mint.


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1860's Abraham Lincoln Broken Column Medal Julian PR-37
Very nice!
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 Posted 09/08/2018  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice indeed !

to come back to Pocahontas, I also like the look of the gilt bronze, on a >100yr old piece

the gilding was not applied everywhere on the medal, I wonder how did they achieve this effect, it is amazing
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I wonder how did they achieve this effect, it is amazing

I think the highpoints of the medal that once were gold plated have worn off ( along with some of the design ). It leaves an attractive circulated cameo effect which I have always liked on coins and medals.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gilt does not wear off easily (see this 1568 example http://goccf.com/t/284217&whichpage=23#2782849) and your medal probably never circulated;
so I am inclined to think that it was designed this way - with a great effect
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gilt does not wear off easily (see this 1568 example http://goccf.com/t/284217&whichpage=23#2782849) and your medal probably never circulated; so I am inclined to think that it was designed this way - with a great effect

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the gilding was not applied everywhere on the medal, I wonder how did they achieve this effect, it is amazing

These statements are not accurate. The HK-347 Jamestown medal featured a fully-plated surface. The example shown above has had some of its gilt worn away. See the following for what the medal looks like in true uncirculated condition.

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Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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 Posted 09/08/2018  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a beauty!
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@commems and TNG

the second is a beautiful medal indeed and interesting to compare with the first (which I even like more, but "les goûts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas")

please help me understanding the difference between these two medals

HK-347 Jamestown medal was officially issued in gilded bronze?
On the internet I find this example - non gilded:
http://www.tipsicocoin.com/browse_i...item_id=3371

or was gilding a variety originally sold? like the second piece posted?
alternatively gilding was done by a jeweler at request of the owner?

anyway, the first piece seems to me no normal wear and tear: gilt is lacking specifically on the letters, on the crests of the waves, the sails AND the flat surface within the circles; just look at the second little ship: the effect is enhancing the image of the design

wear and tear looks more like this:
https://www.ebay.com.my/itm/1907-Ja...222801280775
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I think the medal I have may have been a "pocket piece" for awhile or maybe even deliberately rubbed a lot or even cleaned long ago. It may have just ended up this way, but notice your link points to HK-346
On this link you can see both HK-346 and HK-347 if you scroll down a bit. https://www.expositionmedals.com/1907/
I don't think all gilt medals, of any kinds, have the same amount of gold plating on the blanks. I assume that they were plated blanks before striking? Some may have very thick and others not so thick a layer. Could be uneven too?

I looked at a lot of these before buying mine. Bronze and gilt.
Mine looks like it might have some rim bumps too.
I still kept being drawn back to the one I got after watching it a couple months, I asked for a slightly better discount and still had to pay more than the one your ebay link pointed to.
( I still like mine better )

See mine on the right appears to have more wear on the strands of hair behind the eye and the earring as well as other places like the edges of the feathers. Mine may be a mid to high XF while the one you show maybe high AU?

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I see that there were also other versions

HK-344 Silver. 34mm.
HK-345 Silver-plated Bronze.
HK-346 Bronze.
HK-347 Gilt.
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 Posted 09/09/2018  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks TNG, I understand better now
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a "pocket piece" for awhile

not a bad idea
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