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Double Dies, Or Not Double Dies On This Cent? This Is The Question.

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MD as the mint mark is effected as well and the shelf like appearance the doubling has
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MD for sure. Nice example but alas it's worth 1 cent. But it is the start of a nice Machine Doubling collection. Try to get a nice one from all the memorials to start.
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MD as the mint mark is effected as well and the shelf like appearance the doubling has


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Alas, another one caught by MD of this year's run of miserable messes! 69 & 70 were notorious for dramatic Machine Doubling, good thing those former mint technicians were transferred to to the Army!

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Machine Doubling. Doubled dies before 1990 do not affect the mintmark, flat doubling, numbers appear thinner.
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Not a doubled die. The devices are reduced by Machine Doubling. Compared with the big doubled die for that year, you will see what we are talking about.
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Machine Doubling also affects doubled dies as well:
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Machine Doubling is not the same as a doubled die. The difference? When the die is created, the alignment of the hub was incorrect on the one of the hubbing process. This creates an enlarged devices [u]on the die[/y], thus the term doubled die because of that doubling. Machine Doubling is created during the strike of a normal die. After the strike the devices are altered reducing them a little bit. So what you are seeing on your coin are reduced size of the devices. The 1968-1972 cents had a lot of Machine Doubling during those years. (still shows up on some coin even today even on proof coins) These are common to find and makes un-seasoned collectors mistake them as doubled die, which they are not. Note example below:
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NOT a doubled die
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