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A Compendium Of Numismatic Displays In Museums Around The World (Evergreen)

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As promised, here is some information about the other museum I visited in Ljubljana (The National Museum of Slovenia).

If you have one shot to get your numismatic fix in Ljubljana, then this is your spot. Virtually every sign was bilingual (Slovenian and English); however, a few videos were only in Slovenian. There were multiple video screens with your choice of ten languages (including English). I only spent two hours here but could have spent more. There were multiple exhibits of hoards that had just piles and piles of Roman coins. I can see why there is so much Roman material that comes from this general area. Additionally, there was quite a bit of information about the two separate groups of Celtic peoples that migrated through this region. Here is an excerpt from one of the helpful museum signs:


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The first group [of Celtic migrants] was initially (in the 2nd century BC) mainly limited to southern Carinthia in Austria and north-eastern Italy, while the coins of the second group, with only the horse, predominantly circulated in central and eastern Slovenia as well as in north-western Croatia. The coins of the first group bear legends in Venetic and later Latin, while only a limited number of the coins of the second group bear legends at all. The coins of the first group have been attributed to the Carni and the Norici, those of the second group to the Taurisci. in the 1st century BC, the use of the coins of the first group spread to the area of Slovenia, which previously only used coins of the second group. The hoards of coins show that, contemporaneously with the large and small Celtic silver coins, Roman Republican coins were in circulation in this period.



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This small hoard of gold coins was determined to have been buried in August of 352 AD:





Here is a hoard of 3511 silver coins buried sometime after 273 AD. How would you like to stumble on something like this?




And here are a couple pretty pristine Denarii that I believe were issued by Julius (left) and Augustus (right) Caesar:
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I was pretty busy travelling last Fall and need to clear off some of the pics that I took, including visits to two different museums in Constance Germany.

First up is the Archaeologisches Landesmuseum Konstanz. Non-flash photography is allowed. All signs are German-language only, but an audio tour in English is a free add-on.

As the focus of this museum is on archaeology (obviously), most of the numismatic material on display is by-catch from various digs and hoards. One amazing hoard of gold coins had an adjoining sign that discussed the importance of medieval Constanz in European trade. Here is my rough translation of the German:


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In 1905 a large treasure, hidden around 1390, came to light at 18 Rose Garden Street with around 1500 gold coins. This location was the headquarters for a medieval merchant. The origin of the coins showcases the main directions of the former Constance trade, namely the Bündner Passes to Italy, through central Switzerland to Southern France, along the Rhine River to Flanders, over Nuremberg to the Northeast, and along the Danube River to Austria and Hungary.


There was a particularly nice display of pilgrim badges.

In the adjoining gift shop you can purchase copies of a variety of ancient and medieval coins. Sadly, none of these pieces are marked "copy" although the rough cast fabric of these pieces should be a giveaway as to their true nature.



Displays of hoard with Roman, medieval, and Greek coins:






Pilgrim badges:




Medieval gold coin hoard showing trading routes:




Museum store display with unmarked cast fakes:

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The Rosgartenmuseum (Rose Garden Museum) in Constanz is actually a much better choice for the traveling numismatist who finds himself or herself in Konstanz Germany.

Non-flash photography allowed. All signs are German-language only. If you are typical thick-headed American like me who barely knows his Knie from his Kopf, I recommend that you take pics of the accompanying text. When you get back to your hotel you can enter the text into google translate to understand the nuances of what you have seen. Seems like there ought to be a translation app that works off of pics (not text). Please let me know if anyone out there knows of a good one. Being firmly uni-lingual is a real drag sometimes.

(I wrote up this discussion several months ago and in the meantime have discovered a that the Google Translate app does exactly what I was looking for. Simply aim your phone at the foreign text and then look at it through the screen for a real-time translation. Wicked cool!)

For me, the numismatic highlight of this museum was a series of colored glass panes dating to 1891, but with scenes from the 17th century coin making process. I've included them all below, with my best translations of the inscriptions (please feel free to recommend improvements as my gothic German is especially poor). There are also multiple displays of medieval coins from Constance and the odd Batzen tucked in among other objects. The display of medieval coin dies is very nice, although the lighting could be improved for those who are interested in seeing the fine detail. Several of the dies had a slight convex curve to them, perhaps to aid in coin removal following striking.

As a bonus to visiting this museum is access to the vast accumulation of stones, mosses, fossils, and artifacts. I have included a pic of some spearheads for @bobL as his collecting has recently gone in the direction of Parthian spearheads http://goccf.com/t/332703).

Lastly, I've included images of my oldest coin minted in the German Free City of Constance. It is a Batzen that was struck between 1499 and 1533 AD and is attributed as Saurma 1614.



1: Blank casting and [kuernen?]


2: Silver stretching


3: [weylan?]


4: Cutting out and flattening


5: [Aunk?] measuring the [Staff] airtank 16__


6:Test in the fire and on the balance


7: No inscription, but clearly this is a scene showing the dissemination of the finished coins.



Bronze spear heads:



Dies for striking medieval coins:




A Batzen of Constance from my collection:




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The Kunsthaus Zuerich (Zurich Art Museum) has lots of works of art in the genres of gothic, impressionism, cubism, and concrete art with Swiss dada thrown in for good measure. It is largely devoid of anything numismatic, with the sole exception of one painting showing a boat filled with gold and silver coins. Sorry but I didn't write down the painter--feel free to let me know and I'll fix this post to give proper credit to the artist. Non-flash photography is allowed.


If you are in Zuerich and want your coin fix, the National Museum of Switzerland is about a half mile walk North from the Kunsthaus and much more fertile ground (as described in page #7 of this thread).


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Well done. Thank you for getting us all caught up.


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Seems like there ought to be a translation app that works off of pics (not text). Please let me know if anyone out there knows of a good one.
The Google Translate app will do OCR from the camera for certain languages, German being one.
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Thank you for getting us all caught up.


Not yet, but at least now I'm down to single digits. I guess I go to a lot of museums or something.
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Super descriptions.

There are so many interesting museums out there!
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very interesting description Spence !

the stained glass window series are wonderful
tried to translate some of the missing words (küernen, bregen), which are not used anymore in modern German
they may be forgotten jargon from an old and forgotten craftmanship
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Recently back from vacation in Spain and Portugal, and can comment on a couple of exceptional museums there.

First, the Museo Arqueologico Nacional (known as the MAN) in Madrid. BC Tokens recommended this one in a quick post last November, and I'll share some photos. Museum displays are curated in both Spanish and English, and OK to take photos. The museum's permanent exhibits are laid out chronologically by floor (pre-history, antiquity, Islamic era, reconquista), and there are representative high quality Iberian coins and/or hoards for each era in these exhibits, but there is also a special numismatic exhibit on the mezzanine (E) level .

As with some of the exhibits posted by others here (like the Constance museum reported by @spence), there is a lot in this exhibit on the technology of coining, its relationship to measurement systems (weights), economies and trade of the time, and so on.
So, it starts with smelting to purify the ore (here a smelted silver "cake" from 1-2d century BC)

...and ingots (these from the Nuestra Senora de la Luz shipwreck of 1752)


The exhibit moves on to coining technology with molds for casting 19th c. Moroccan falus and 2 falus coins:


And a Roman As explaining that casting was used because of the size of the coin:


Then on to hammered technology with this die for an Iberian denarius,


dies for Spanish colonial era coinage

and a screwpress


and something more modern: sheet, blanks, planchets and the 100 peseta coin made from them


A part of the exhibit was related to supporting technologies like weights and measures.
A set of Punic weights:



And coin weights paired with their respective coin for an Islamic era coin and a colonial era 8 escudo:



Last but not least, a nice display on how those counting tokens we see posted on CCF were used:



And an earlier technology, 6-7th century Visigothic accounting slates:
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Spence, these posts are amazing. Thank you for the effort invested in bringing these photos and commentary to us, who may never get the chance to see these in person.
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No prob @ck, but I would like to point out that @tdz made this last post. While I'm happy to provide the bulk of the museum descriptions, I think that this thread is much richer when we get multiple folks providing input from their own travels.

@tdz, somehow the last time I was in Madrid, I missed the MAN. I'll put it on my list now for whenever I'm back. By the way, I hope that you have a report from Portugal to post here too!
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Indeed, I will get to Portugal (well ... Lisbon; I still need to download those photos), but will touch on a couple of smaller places in between. I was struck by how many museums had some numismatic content as part of their story. "I'll meet you in the gift shop," became a sort of running joke between my wife and me, as I found yet another coin display to dawdle over. I was also impressed how most numismatic displays I encountered covered all four eras: Roman, Visigoth, Islamic, modern.

Before leaving the MAN numismatic exhibit, I forgot that mint marks and moneyer's marks through the ages were also covered in the coinage exhibit.


In the Visigothic area of the MAN permanent exhibition, there is a great display of coins from each Visigothic ruler, as well as a portion of a hoard dating from this era:





Likewise, in the Islamic area of the permanent collection, you'll find examples of coins from each ruler, and a portion of a famous Islamic era hoard:



The MAN has an online catalog of lots of the items in their collection. I haven't tried to navigate it, but here is the link to the numismatics area for anyone who is interested: http://www.man.es/man/coleccion/cat...smatica.html

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Recently back from vacation in Spain and Portugal, and can comment on a couple of exceptional museums there...
Excellent! Thank you for sharing the details.
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...I think that this thread is much richer when we get multiple folks providing input from their own travels.

Quite so! I will try to remember to snap some photos next time I'm at a museum with numismatic displays.
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