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Is This An Authentic Roman Gold Coin?

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 Posted 12/08/2017  07:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add judgemycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

My father had bought this coin years ago.

Through some Google search, I was able to identify it as a Diadumenian, AD 218, Gold Aureus. RIC 115

I'm wondering if it's an authentic piece. The gold looks genuine, however there are tiny holes on the coin's surface. According to what I've read online, this could be an indicator of casting. Is that correct?

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 Posted 12/08/2017  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Judge and welcome to CCF.

The details look soft and as you mentioned the surfaces look problematic. Do the edges look like there are any remnants of a seam that may have been filed smooth? I'm certainly not an expert in Roman gold, but to my eyes it looks like a cast fake.

I'm sure others will comment when they see this post.


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 Posted 12/08/2017  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cast fake. You can see the sprue lines from the mold on the edges. A photo of the edge should confirm that.
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 Posted 12/08/2017  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judgemycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Biancasdad and moxking for your quick replies.

I've uploaded side pictures. Do the edges look suspicious?


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 Posted 12/08/2017  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Cast fake. A rather low quality fake at that.
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 Posted 12/08/2017  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judgemycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the file marks on the edge that gave it away, right?

Too bad. The jeweller has confirmed it's pure gold though. I can console myself in that :D
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 Posted 12/08/2017  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I agree with the others a cast fake.
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 Posted 12/08/2017  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judgemycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you jbuck and echizento. I guess it's time to turn it into a bracelet, then :D

Can't believe my father held onto it all this time, thinking it was some rare coin.
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Rare or not, if it's 24kt gold as suggested by your jeweller, it's worth quite a bit just for its gold content!
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 Posted 12/29/2017  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add niki64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1000% fake !
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Gold coins of Diadumenmian would be excessively rare, and would attract huge prices at auction.

For this reason, even if it appeared be obviously genuine, I would have it checked by one of the World's major auction houses, specializing in ancient coins anyway.
That is, unless it's authenticity and provenance have already been proven, and tested for weight, and with XRF. It is fairly common for high quality fake ancient gold coins to be manufactured from good quality gold.

As for my opinion, for what it is worth, it appears to be obviously fake, irrespective of whatever metal or alloy it happens to be made of.
My reasons for thinking this are in agreement with most others in this thread.
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