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1894 S Barber Dime.. Ice Cream In December!! Are There Brighter Days Ahead?

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 Posted 12/09/2017  11:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bighomie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Local coin dealer agrees it is the same coin as is in the photo below taken at the last known auction from The late 80's Bowers and Merena auctions. Top photo is the dime I have. The photo is super grainy because of the flash. Though it is well worn it is in better condition than photos show. What do you guys think? Every smallest detail is present on both coins. The lines from the nose,circle under nose black line under leg of the letter N as well as the pie shape at the top of the N. The feet looking density issue under the letter O...All input is greatly appreciated.

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It is certainly not the exact same coin. I also highly doubt it is an 1894-S.

Yours is much more worn than the other and I can't make out any mintmark on it.
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Sorry, but there is next to zero resemblance between the two coins.
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The date looks like 1904 to me.

Here's an image of your coin, a 1904 10c, and the two images superimposed:

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You do realize the coin has been in circulation for almost 30 years from the bottom photo to the top photo !Mintmark if you know anything about the coin can be found very easily in the 2nd photo from the bottom.I have studied thousands of Barber dimes be for posting on here for the last 7 months I've had the Dime. I can assure you it is the exact dime. There is no other dime come close to having 1 imperfection the same as these two share. Zoom in and really look from speck to speck If it is wore off its there just as it is on the bottom set in the photos.
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The 8 in 18 is a lot more vivid looking at the actual coin the 0 in 1904 the center of the 0 closes at the bottom .the center on rhe 3rd number is already closed at the midgle if the 4 no?
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Sorry for the poor grammar!I didn't catch that.. The 9 has a long curve on the back side. You can see the second number curves back in very quickly
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From what I remember reading, there were less than 25 1894-S dimes struck and they were all proof (impaired or not). Only nine are known to have survived. This is a very valuable coin and the one you picture as having been sold at auction would have never been subjected to as much additional circulation wear as your coin shows. It would have been locked away. It takes a long time to add that much natural wear.

There appears to be some similar marks but, not 100% by a long shot. For instance, the mark running between the N & E of DIME on the reverse is missing on your coin.

The mintmark area is too worn to make a determination. At that level of wear, one tends to "see" what they want to see.

Edit: I do think it is an 1894, just not an S.
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Can you see it now?
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I saw that before but, it is hardly concrete. The bigger question is why do you think these are the exact same coin? How would such a valuable coin purchased at auction have been subjected to decades worth of circulation wear (post-1980s no less)?
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Please don't think my response is in being slick or smart! This really could save my Famiies buisness that is struggling and I appreciate any acknowledge you guys have. I'm not a collector just love researching things when I find them....Thank you guys really!!
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When I was a child my step father passed away was a warden of a prison and had a very elite coin collection my mother knew nothing about it and took it to the pawn shop for a couple of hundred bucks when he passed away some she rolled and cashed in. I know first hand that it is very posible. The coins in sleves only states face value. If family inherited or give to a grand child that wanted a PlayStation He would not hesitate to roll a dime that said 10 cents on the package with the rest of the dimes right?
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To answer your question about why I think it's the same..After studying the coin under a magnifier for quite some time I was confused about the number of minted coins in 1894. Was there 24 total for all mints was there when I realized there was only 24 minted in San Francisco and only 10 in existence I though there had to be a picture of each dime somewhere. I got online and found a artical that said past sales photos and grading order. All where perfect coins in the pictures unroll I came to the Ice Cream dime. It was the only one with no wreath still visable so the first thing that fought my eye was the two marks from the nose to the lettering. Then the patch of discoloring athe forehead. Then I moved to the little black dots between the two spikes in the top of the head there is a figure 8 metal density issue between United and states. There is and indention on the front side of the neck and a dark circlebetween the bottom lip and chin and a circle off the point of the nose. On the back there is what looks like a tracing on the left side of the O in ONE and feet like metal density issue that can not be replicated and so on and so on. The line you speak of is there between the N and M if you look closely all markings are there if you look hard even if they are worn. A lot of the markings appear white on the bottom photo meaning the imperfection was there just not full of gunk at the time they are black now...
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Bighomie; turingmach is correct. It is a 1904. From 1892 until 1900, the leaves in Libertys wreath on the obverse
have round tips and the leaf below the second S in States is distant. Later in 1900 through the end of production
in 1916, the leaves are more pointed and the leaf below the second S is close.
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I could understand that a rare coin could be cashed in to the bank for face value. But it would not take long before before someone pulled something so unusual out of circulation. For that kind of wear, it would have to pass through 100s of transactions.

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