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1973 D LMC I Think This Is A Die Clash On The Reverse, Is It ? Help Please.

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1973 D LMC
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I tend to agree.
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Great eyes. I would probably have missed that one.
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I respectfully disagree. Looks like another case of a Sunken Die error. Here's the link. http://www.error-ref.com/recurring-...dence-error/
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Boy David, you hit that nail right on the head! Great job of pointing that out! Using the basic overlays, you can tell it wouldn't necessarily be a clash, not lining up right.
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Crazyb0, I knew this because I read a article about a recurring Sunken Die error and this came up. 1973 D LMC's are notorious for this. It's a good example and a keeper. :)
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Looks like another case of a Sunken Die error


Good call and info on the link.
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Thank you Mark. Keep your eyes out for this error. This error is often mistaken for a Die Clash.
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Keep your eyes out for this error.


I've never seen anything like it yet. If I saw something like that now I'll know what it is!
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I am actually now keeping my eyes out for this one too. I remember finding one, but it was too beatup and threw it back in the spending pile. I want to find a example in decent shape. :)
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Thanks E & V for the that information and the link. Interesting read.

Sorry for the slow response I had to work today.

Now I know what to do with the other two I found with it.

1973 D with a Recurring die subsidence error.

Do you think these are from the same die at different stages or three different dies?

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http://goccf.com/t/301826

It's not a die clash. It's a mysterious form of die failure. Here is mine, just learned about this recently. I suggest you look at all the comments especially by Coop
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Thanks for the link Coppergold. Just read the responses and Coops pics are right on.
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You're welcome. It's a very interesting form of Die Failure and the crazy and unsolved puzzle remains a true mystery.
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I think perhaps it was improper temperature due to faulty equipment. I can see how several dies could receive the same improper temperature and experience the same result. Just my opinion of course. I can't imagine any other way.
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Coinmasters, yes they put a bunch of the dies in a kiln to temper, so if any of that group have the similar effect happen it seems reasonalble for many dies. For the question are these from the same die, possible not, you have to take all factors into account including die pairs and other standard impressions too. A nice study to do if you have multiple examples.
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