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1969 D Business Strike Kennedy Half - Straight G Vs. Flared G

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 Posted 12/16/2017  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes crazyb0 and coop are the 2 I look to see if they post I've learned a lot from them


Yes, it's nice to know who the go-to guys are.
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Not that's good magnification just different parts of the coin

The left bottom looks notched to me and the stars look notched and weird to me


It's not you, it's probably me. My eyes are probably just not trained yet to see what you're seeing. I have 6 69-D's sitting here in front of me. 4 are straight G's and 2 are flared G's. Markers and notches are wrapping me around the axel.

Like Crazyb0 said:


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RDV-002(Flared G) and RDV-003(Straight G) are the two common reverse dies produced from the master working hubs of the 60's Kennedys. They made a ****pot full of them and distributed to all mints at random. No telling how many or where/when used. They just help in doing a stage/die pair markers for DDO / DDRs is all.


Unless these 69-D's are MS-69 or better, they are probably nothing to write home about.
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 Posted 12/16/2017  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrzllewellyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see something onew the coin in pictures 5 and 6 I wanted more pictures of close ups of around the whole coin if you don't mind
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Okay, pictures 5 and 6, around the whole coin. Let me see what I can do. Standby....
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Okay, so here's the coin in pictures #5 & #6. (1969-D, Flared G) I don't know about notches but I see a lot of bag marks and hits. The light and focus on these things kill me!

I think we ran this one to ground! This is probably the end of the road for this baby.


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Yeah no notching I don't think looks like MD and maybe a LDS DDD maybe thanks for the extra pics I thought I saw something but just my eyes and lighting. Still RDV-002
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Yeah no notching I don't think looks like MD and maybe a LDS DDD maybe thanks for the extra pics I thought I saw something but just my eyes and lighting. Still RDV-002


No problem. Thanks for looking.
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I'll interject some more, ready to learn Padawans?
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In #1, BLUE is showing die flow lines beginning to fully form. Shows nothing more than a later die state Mid or Late. The YELLOW here is what is interesting. It is a two directional MD. The lower portions received a bounce, making the shelf, reduction in size is there The shearing effect on the upper portions is caused by the sharp edge of the device cavity striping the metal on either an upward or downward movement.

In #2, The RED arrow shows direction outwards. If this effect follows around the coin in like manner it will be a result of Die Deterioration sometimes referred to as DDD, the way the light picks it up here (move the source, effects change). If the effective diminishing remains directional on all devices (all effect go North, etc) then this is an MD event.

For some reason, the deeper the design elements are, the more chance of MD is there. All dies "bounce" upon impact, natural process. If alignment off due to loose mechanism, then a noticeable MD will be seen. On cents this is quite noticeable with hand-punched MM next to weaker inscribed date.

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The YELLOW here is what is interesting. It is a two directional MD. The lower portions received a bounce, making the shelf, reduction in size is there The shearing effect on the upper portions is caused by the sharp edge of the device cavity striping the metal on either an upward or downward movement.


YES! When you say shearing, that explains what I'm seeing! Many of the stars going around the coin (360 degrees) have the shearing. I thought it was some type of PMD hit. "Most" of the shearing is only on the stars. I thought it was odd, only the stars were hit and not the letters going around the coin as well. Your detailed explanation describes it!

And that's why you have 5256 Posts and I only have 800!
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So what you are saying is I might know what I'm looking at a little bit finally butch? Because everything you just said is what I said I just can't quite explain it yet thanks for the detailed answer.
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little bit finally butch?


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Because everything you just said is what I said I just can't quite explain it yet thanks for the detailed answer.


I don't completely understand your writing. But your feedback was helpful.
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