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Pillar of the Community
United States
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can someone confirm this is a fake? also, please remind me where we are supposed to report these (on CCF)...assuming there is a more appropriate location. https://www.ebay.com/i/112699029774 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pics are too blurry for me, but the counterfeit forum is now semi private, and you need to contact Bobby if you want access.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Cannot tell from the pics the authenticity of this coin. The mint mark looks to be the correct size and appears to be in the right position. Others may have a different opinion.
The coin appears to suffer from serious environmental damage.
At least the Seller offers you a 14-day return.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Anyone buying a 16-D out of a NGC or PCGS, or even an ANACS holder is asking for trouble. You either need to be an expert on all die markers or silly not to buy TPG'ed. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree. Especially in a case like this where you can't blow up the pic enough to get a good look.
Edited by Coinfrog
12/20/2017 1:30 pm
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 United States
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Anyone buying a 16-D out of a NGC or PCGS, or even an ANACS holder is asking for trouble. Agreed. A possible exception would be from someone you really, really trust, like a dealer with which you have had a longtime working relationship. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
591 Posts |
Thanks everyone. I totally agree about avoiding any unslabbed 1916-D dimes! Interesting that the ebay listing includes "product details", which state: " PCGS sees an average of 5 to 10 counterfeits a week. Needless to say, third party authentication is highly recommended." From the images/discussion on another site, it does appear to be a fake (and for some reason I can't post the link to that page here) Product Details
Product Information
David Hall
The 1916-D Mercury dime is one of the most heralded key dates of 20th century numismatics. If you collected coins in the 1950s or 1960s, you dreamed of finding a 1916-D dime...or a 1909-S VDB or 1914-D Lincoln Cent, or 1932-D or 1932-S quarter...in circualtion. And I certainly did have that dream as a young pre-teen coin collector.
The 1916-D is rare in all grades. Walter Breen has written that mint production of dimes in Denver in 1916 was stopped so that personnel could devote full time to making quarters. The original mintage of 264,000 for the 1916-D is by far the lowest of the Mercury dime series. For comparison, the mintage of the 1916 was 22,180,080 and the mintage for the 1916-S was 10,450,000. The 1916-D is an extremely high demand coin in all grades and even very low grade examples sell for in excess of $1,000.
The 1916-D is rare in mint state and very rare in Gem condition. The strike is usually very sharp and I'd estimated that 80% of more of the mint state survivors have fully struck crossbands. Luster is typically modest. Many examples have some degree of toning.
Note that this is one of the most counterfeited of all U.S. rare coins. The bad guys add a "D" to a 1916 Philadelphia. I have seen counterfeits in all grades and PCGS sees an average of 5 to 10 counterfeits a week. Needless to say, third party authentication is highly recommended. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Coin has been removed from ebay. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agreed. A possible exception would be from someone you really, really trust, like a dealer with which you have had a longtime working relationship. Even that is not always safe. A dealer I used to know, before he passed away, told me he once purchased a 16D Merc that he swore was real. However, it turned out to be a really good fake. One of the problems is so many have been made by really good counterfeiters using melted Mercury dimes for exact Dime content. Then using something that are really done well to make a authentic looking fake. I wonder how many of those are in peoples collections. |
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United States
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Well, in that example a TPG might not do any better, so I still feel they are on par. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Quote:Anyone buying a 16-D out of a NGC or PCGS, or even an ANACS holder is asking for trouble. You either need to be an expert on all die markers or silly not to buy TPG'ed.  I soooooo agree with you. I scream it all the time!! |
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New Member
United States
20 Posts |
It would be interesting to watch a video of how these fake mintmarks are removed from one coin and placed on another. Talk about dexterity!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:Coin has been removed from ebay. I don't see at as removed, I see it as ended and sold for $603. |
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Posted 12/19/2017 9:30 pm
