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1942 D Jefferson Nickel

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 Posted 12/24/2017  07:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canary01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

What do you think of the grade of this coin?

Thanks in advance
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 Posted 12/24/2017  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When posting photos of coins,especially for grading you need to remove the coin from whatever holder it is in when ever possible. This tip is for everyone please.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, we are not sure if the obverse scratches are on the coin or 2x2 . also to better determine Full Steps .
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 Posted 12/24/2017  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly looks MS.
Strike is just a touch off of full.
The portico of Monticello is a bit weak and it's not FS.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cleatis87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS 65, assuming fine horizontal lines are from the plastic, which I think it is. Looks like very close to full steps, but broken slightly in middle. Looks very nice
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 Posted 12/24/2017  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bud250r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be very happy with that coin in my collection. Very nice.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
65, very attractive.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
solid 65 but no FS.
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I agree with moxking to the T
That little hit on the steps take away a FS grade. The lines are probably in the plastic cello window.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-65.
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I have several 1960s (hopefully FS) Jeffersons that I'd like to get grades on.

But first

1) What is the number of lines (steps) that one must observe unobstructed to make a determination that an FS exists?

2) What is keeping this one back from hitting a 66?

3) Is this one a 65 on both sides or just one? Which side is it if applicable?

4) Hypothetically, if one side is a 66 and the other a 65, is the overall grade only a 65?

I know that in some of the other lower grade (less than MS) coins I've seen slabbed, one side may be a couple of tiers lower and the overall grade does not seemingly decrease to the side with the lowest grade.

5) Finally, 'on average' based upon past CCF grading threads does grading using an Internet connection (as opposed to having an MS coin physically in hand) using CCF or similar setups have the reliability to accurately distinguish between a 65 and a 66?
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this is just me, grading is subjective that's why you don't see dealers issuing numeric grades. they still use the generic G,VG,F,VF,XF,AU,BU,GEM BU

1) What is the number of lines (steps) that one must observe unobstructed to make a determination that an FS exists?

topic of debate. I'm at 5 steps

2) What is keeping this one back from hitting a 66?

IMO depth of luster & strike

3) Is this one a 65 on both sides or just one? Which side is it if applicable?

I think both sides grade 65

4) Hypothetically, if one side is a 66 and the other a 65, is the overall grade only a 65?

personally I normally net split grade coins or if there is only one grade difference then I go by the overall look of both sides to determine whether I go up or down


I know that in some of the other lower grade (less than MS) coins I've seen slabbed, one side may be a couple of tiers lower and the overall grade does not seemingly decrease to the side with the lowest grade.

certain coin types can have more grade relevance put on the obverse or even the reverse. this could be from known issues with the type or other factors. this is why I grade a coin by the coin and not the holder. I dont trust the TPG graders

5) Finally, 'on average' based upon past CCF grading threads does grading using an Internet connection (as opposed to having an MS coin physically in hand) using CCF or similar setups have the reliability to accurately distinguish between a 65 and a 66?


it can, based on the photos. most collectors/dealers who have been grading many years and are aware of how photos can affect grade can make a pretty good guess at it. its fairly simple with very good photos to see strike, luster and minor flaws which would hold a coin to 65 rather than 66. even the pro's can be fooled as noted on these threads multiple times.
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