Basically all of my coins are now in 2x2s, and the bulk of the world coins are in makeshift trays (from ex-2x2 boxes) of 2x2's.
I'm getting more and more interest to build a type set, and plan to store the type set (separately from the rest) in 2x2 albums.
I've searched in this site about it but most of whayt I found seemed to concern about preference of using dansco's or 2x2's whether individually or in their albums, and about enviromental damage and concerns of coins changing appearance due to the environment.
My concern here is different. I noticed that a 2x2 album with one filled page is heavy already, I worry that the high points of the coins in the album will bang each other when the album is moved, rotated, or opened. I know there's the album pages that prevent direct contact, and the cardboard which may dampen the impact. But I'm still unsure to use them.
Other than very few coins, most of mine are XF or below, and none of them are super-valuable. I just want to avoid that guilt of damaging coins...
So the question is, will putting 2x2's in 2x2 albums put the coins in a new danger of getting squeezed (due to weighr) or banged to each other? Is the protection from the album pages and cardboard from 2x2's enough to orevent this, save for rough/mishandling? (e.g. turning the pages quickly, slamming the coins.)
Over concerned. If you make sure the staples are smashed! You should have no troubles. Clean coins in new 2x2 in vynyl last forever. True, don't lay the binders flat and stack, bookshelf 'em in no bigger than a 3" binder, smaller is better so the pages won't drop, 11/2"-2" works well for my stuff.
Quote: Will putting 2x2's in 2x2 albums put the coins in a new danger of getting squeezed (due to weighr) or banged to each other?
Squeezed? No, but definitely could be banged, especially if any of your coins have high relief.
Quote: Is the protection from the album pages and cardboard from 2x2's enough to orevent this, save for rough/mishandling? (e.g. turning the pages quickly, slamming the coins.)
I would say yes, except that you should flatten your staples (or use staple-less 2x2s).
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I would also add that BCW pages are low quality - flimsy and probably not quite as snug as they should be. I didn't realize this until I bought a batch of used, but high-quality pages.
First, if a coin is worth saving its worth a non-staple 2x2. You can even get odd sizes for silver Three Cents or bust half dollars, as examples.
Second, for the binder get a zippered edge, for two reasons. The spine edge has a carrying handle for easy transport and the coins hang from the top so there is no pressure from the weight of the album. Store the albums the same way. Also, if a coin ever falls out of a pocket, it stays inside the binder and isn't lost.
Third, use the common 3 ring divider between coin pages to further reduce contact problems. That also gives a solid background between pages so all you see is the top page, not more pages underneath that confuse the view.
And an absolutely free fourth reason - you can put 12 pocket pages for silver dollar or world crown sizes, or 9 pocket pages for your TPG coins.
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I have NEVER had a problem with 2x2 albums, of the type mentioned, where coins in the pockets may clash.
Other problems Can arise, however. One of my main concerns is that a single album page, when filled with crown sized coins, can weigh over a pound in weight. That puts a huge stress on the page holes where they fit into the binder rings.
For this reason, FOUR ring binders are essential, to help prevent tearing of album pages at the ring holes. I don't use three coin album binders, I use re cycled four ring trade sample catalog binders.
The most successful way of preventing tearing of the album pages at the holes, is to use the four brass screw post type of coin album binder. Works best with about 5 pages. (100 crown sized coins, can weigh up to 6 pounds if all coins are crown sized).
Four ring binders are quite OK with smaller than crown sized coins, and up to 20 pages. (400 coins, can weigh over 10 pounds).
I think your fears are for naught, but who says paranoia is not proper thinking? To allay your fears, you can find some good interleaving that will prevent the banging together of the coins. You could just use an empty 2x2 holder page to the same purpose.
Do use a quality binder, with at least four rings. Might take a look at the Linder offerings, they have multiple offerings and good stout pages which lay flat and turn well.
Quote: use the common 3 ring divider between coin pages to further reduce contact problems. That also gives a solid background between pages so all you see is the top page, not more pages underneath that confuse the view.
Thanks for that suggestion, moxking! That never occurred to me.
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Try to keep the bigger and heavier coins on the bottom rows, reserving the top rows for smaller and lighter coins. This will help prevent the pages from sagging over time. This does require you to be more flexible with your arrangements.
@mcshilling that's Ok I just feared that the package was tampered with and something was missing. Good to know it was complete
@jbuck isn't it better to put the heavier coins at the closest to the spine?
I am guessing that the further an object (in this case coins) is from a pivot (in this case the spine/binder holes), the larger the force it exerts. (Lever/leverage principle)
Quote: @jbuck isn't it better to put the heavier coins at the closest to the spine?
If you want heavier coins near the top, then that is certainly better than having them nearer the outside edge.
After having to replace some sagging pages, I started putting my heavier coins on the bottom row since the bottom of the page is resting on the same place as the binder edges for support.
I use the 4 ring binders (Lighthouse Numis I think they are called) and some of my coins are quite thick being ancient silver yet theres been no trouble that I've noticed.
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