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81 CC GSA & 81 O Morgan For Grading

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81 CC got yesterday. I'm thinking 64+ maybe 65, I know gsa Morgan's get a little slack grading wise. I'm thinking the 81 o is a 65. Luster is there just bad angles of natural light. Was previously in a anacs 63 but had a ugly splotchy toning that probably kept it from getting higher, a quick dip and it looks better. Thoughts.

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63 and 64 (shot 65).
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63 and 65. Nice examples.
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I can't see that CC going higher than 63. The O looks 65.
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There really is minimal chatter on the cheek on the 81cc more breaks than scuffs. It's hard to catch that on pics,
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I see two 64s. the 81o has some bagmarks in the hair over the ear.
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1) It looks like it could make MS-64.
2) MS-65.
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1. 63
2. 65
It might just be the lighting, but the second one looks like it was dipped in a silver cleaner.
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The 81 o I gave it a one second dip in ez est to remove unattractive toning the luster is strong in hand.
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64 and 65 (if there is still strong luster—it looks a little flat)
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The 81 o I gave it a one second dip in ez est to remove unattractive toning the luster is strong in hand.


When toning on a coin is removed, a layer of metal (and luster) is removed along with the toning.
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I know how to dip a coin this isn't my first rodeo hence the 1 second dip. Perhaps I'll post a video of the luster tomorrow in decent lighting. The toning was a ugly toning IMO hence why I dipped it.
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I know how to dip a coin this isn't my first rodeo hence the 1 second dip. Perhaps I'll post a video of the luster tomorrow in decent lighting. The toning was a ugly toning IMO hence why I dipped it.


All the same, you took a coin whose value quintuples between MS64 and MS65, and stripped it. Not completely, either, if that swath of color from the taileathers to the second A in AMERICA is any indication. Not to mention the crud still plainly caught in the date.

This was a risk I wouldn't have taken with that kind of value at stake.
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Trust me it was a gamble but the toning was flat out ugly hence why anacs didn't grade it higher and I know if I tried to crossover it to NGC or PCGS they'd keep it 63. Even if it gets a 64 I'm happy cause I got less than $80 into it. Risk vs reward.

Oh and the crud on the reverse was there before the dip. It's more like faint carbon streaks than any residue. All I know is it was there beforehand and I thought could be removed.
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81-CC probably 64, as the marks look like light scuffs, and it would seem to fit with other MS64 GSA CC Morgans.

The 81-O no better than 64. 81-O has to knock your socks off for a 65 grade, since there's a big $ jump from 64 to 65. If the luster looks at all deadened by dipping (I can't tell if it does), then you'll get a 63. Don't mess with the black streak, which is a planchet impurity. Graders will inspect the area for attempts to remove it.
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