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You Vs. NGC -- 1880-S Morgan

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seems like a stretch to call this a gem with multiple cheek hits
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 Posted 01/04/2018  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Way overgraded. This should be 63 or 64, max.
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I agree with the community's assessment.

Increasingly so, I have been getting a lot of 65's that aren't really 65s
The TPGs nowadays are going crazy
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Yup. Grading is not a science, but an "art" - and yet no doubt this Morgan would go on ebay for MS65 prices.

The new iphone instantaneously projects 30,000 IR data points onto the face of anyone who picks it up to identify whether or not that person is the owner. If it is the owner, the phone allows access. Certainly someone should finally be able to bring a verifiable, scientific standard to coin grading in an app.

And those thirty thousand data points will even ID the person handling the phone if they are wearing glasses, a hat, a new beard, and cannot be fooled by a photo b/c it detencts two dimensions from three dimensions.

So it would probably not bee too hard to adapt this to surface wear, details, and dings? Seeing as how TPGs don't use high magnification, it seems 20K points might be overkill.


The 30,000 instantaneous data points could be related to grading measurable technicalities on the coin surface and then allowing a human to add a point or take away one for eye appeal.


Personally I believe this is long overdue.
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