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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ***So I have been collecting wheat pennies for as long as I can remember and I recently found this one in my pocket change... It is a 1958 d wheat back Lincoln Penny and at first glance I thought it was scratched near the date stamp...but when I put it under my loupe it looks like another stamp of some kind and I'm curious if anyone can tell if this is a post mint damage or if it's a possible error. This is the best picture I could get of the mark in question. Thanks!! 
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I played around and got these pictures, not sure how to get better quality pics...  
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Pillar of the Community
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At first I thought it was a picture of a solar eclipse, had to scroll down. It is a lamination error.
It happens when a thin layer of the planchet flakes off. It can happen before or after the coin is struck.
It is a collectable error, the bigger the laminated part, the more value they have.
Edited by cwb 01/06/2018 10:00 pm
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Upon closer look, I agree with lamination. It looked like a counterstamp to me at first for some reason.
Edited by Cleatis87 01/06/2018 10:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Try to post some clearer pictures. It could be damaged, but from what I can see, it looks like a lamination. EDIT: The solar eclipse thing really threw me. 
Edited by cwb 01/06/2018 10:05 pm
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New Member
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Thanks for such quick responses! I apologize for the eclipse type photo lol...I am still trying to figure out a way to get a super clear picture. This is my latest attempt What I find to be curious is how the mark seems to stretch to the outer border almost to the edge of "trust"...  
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@bettie57, first welcome to CCF. Second, yes that second set of pics is much better. With the first set of pics, I also thought that it might be a counterstamp, but now it is clear that your coin has a nice area of lamination. It also looks like the pin in the lower part of the B in LIBERTY broke off from the die. Nice coin!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Rest in Peace
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It is damage, not a lamination error. Notice the pattern across the top of 1. It indents matching the disturbance in the field. Looks like a reeded edge coin size of half dollar. 
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@crazyb0, I saw that too, but looking further up the line--in the vicinity of Lincoln's chin--it appears as though the surface metal has flaked up. Is that likely PMD also? 
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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I am going to stick with my original observation. It is a lamination issue. EDIT: The areas marked with the arrows show how the laminated part is still flaking off the surface of the coin. 
Edited by cwb 01/06/2018 10:51 pm
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Rest in Peace
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Claude, if it was a lam, the upper portion of the 1 would be effected, it is not, it was a full strike which would have had some indication if it was a pre or post strike lam.
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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe the original poster could post another picture with a close up of the 1, maybe move the light source so we can get a clearer view of it.
Sometimes it can be very difficult to see details in pictures. It's always easier with the coin in hand. To me, it looks like the 1 is affected.
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Quote: Looks like a reeded edge coin size of half dollar. That doesn't make sense considering how long the affected area is. It's not an impact hit from a reeded coin. Quote: if it was a lam, the upper portion of the 1 would be effected You may be surprised with how lams behave in fields versus devices. This is a shallow flaw. On the field, it's obvious, but not so much elsewhere. This is definitely a peeled lamination flaw, most likely post-strike. Many times, lamination errors are more clean and consistent than damage. That's my 4 half-cents. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a lamination to me
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My vote is for a LAM also. John1 
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It's definitely a lamination issue
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