1970-S Cent Small Date -Vs- Large Date?

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Coinvirgin Valued Member United States 123 Posts	Posted 01/17/2018 6:28 pm * Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! * I am confused by the information in given in book" Strike it Rich with Pocket Change". On page 57 it says the 'valuable' coin is the 1970s small date. However it shows on page 56 the 1970s large date being more valuable? Is this s misprint? So which is it? Small or large date? And exactly what makes it valuable? Is it the variety, year & errors combined the gives it it's value? Do the coins exist without the errors? Did the Philadelphia Mint release any of these 1970 small/ large date pennies? Is it possible to have a 1970 small date with no mint mark? Report this Post to the Staff

Coinvirgin Valued Member United States 123 Posts	Posted 01/17/2018 6:35 pm I realize that coins minted in Philadelphia didn't have mint marks. What I was trying to find out if they had minted a 1970 Pennie. I ' think' (? )I have a small date 1970 Pennie but it has no mint mark. Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 01/17/2018 6:40 pm First off to the forums The 1970 small dat applies ONLY to the S mint issue coins. All the other hubbed dies for the Denver and Philly mints have the Large date. See here: One other way to tell is the curl of the 9 points to the S on a LD and to the 7 on the SD Edited by Crazyb0 01/17/2018 6:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinvirgin Valued Member United States 123 Posts	Posted 01/17/2018 8:46 pm Knowledge (in my opinion ) is the most valuable thing a person can possess . Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me! Report this Post to the Staff
OldJoeClark Pillar of the Community United States 1260 Posts	Posted 01/17/2018 8:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 01/18/2018 02:50 am I don't have an opinion about the book because I haven't read it. The title is slightly misleading, however. Yes, small and large date in 1970 only involves the S-mint coins. The small date is the desirable one. There are many ways to tell the difference and several have been shown. Personally, the position of the 7 is enough for me: Draw a mental line from the bottom of the 1 to the bottom of the 7. If that line extends to the bottom of the 0, it's a Small Date. If that line extension travels below the bottom of the 0, it's a Large Date. Hopefully, that makes sense. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/18/2018 09:58 am to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 01/18/2018 12:26 pm Quote: On page 57 it says the 'valuable' coin is the 1970s small date. However it shows on page 56 the 1970s large date being more valuable? Is this s misprint? In the 3rd edition I found in PDF format a while back. The 1970S small and large dates are referenced on page 55. I see no written reference of large date being the one with added value. Only the small date. That said there is an image on that page that seems to be a large date. The notes under it describes what to look for on a small date. Note it doesn't make reference to the image being one or the other, but thought that might confuse some people starting out. Quote: Is it possible to have a 1970 small date with no mint mark? A few scenarios come to mind that potentially could happen and make a missing mint mark. Note: I don't recall seeing any of these scenarios first hand. 1. Device (MM) on the die could be filled with grease. 2. Mint mark removed from coin after strike ( PSD). 3. Polished off the die. Adding to what others have already mentioned. The small date upper curl on the 9 points towards the center of the 7. On the large date it points towards the tail end or bottom of the 7. I think it was mentioned above it points to the MM, but MM's move around some and may or may not be inline with the upper curl of the 9. Circulation can alter appearances so you need to take everything into account. Thanks, Doug. edit: to add/change "edition" above. Edited by Halo1st 01/18/2018 6:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 01/18/2018 6:37 pm Quote: Is it possible to have a 1970 small date with no mint mark? None are known to date, but as Halo1 stated, a modified 1970S could be, but why would someone alter a valuable coin, it would only be damaged and therefore absolutely void of value? Report this Post to the Staff
Coinvirgin Valued Member United States 123 Posts	Posted 01/18/2018 10:33 pm So much great info, thank you all:) I found my first "counter clash" ? ( with out the counter ) 1974 D Roosevelt dime . It's not as obvious as the picture in the book but it's a keeper! Report this Post to the Staff
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