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All My Dads 1786/1787 New Jersey Colonials, Thoughts?

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 Posted 01/19/2018  01:48 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing. Very nice!
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Those are wonderful! I'd love to have any one of those coppers in my collection. I wonder if it would be worth a quick acetone bath to see if that would held loosen or dissolve the material in the vertical shield lines.
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I would just sell them on ebay as raw. No need to slab. They are all genuine and in slabs they will just get generic classifications other than specific Maris classifications.

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Thank you all for the comments. This entire process has been very informative. My dad has not decided if he wants to sell them or not. He keeps changing his mind. I would not go to the trouble of sending them to a TPG if he wasn't going to monetize them. But if he did decide...and to your point colonialjohn, would I be leaving money on the table not having them graded? Do coins sell for less if they are not slabbed? Should you use ebay or an auction house like HA? And to your question Oldwormwood, I am thoroughly confused on whether to dip the bad ones or having the TPG do it for that matter. I just don't know what is the right thing to do.
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@BMG, just noticed this thread and the herd of horses that you have posted. Pretty amazing collection I must say. With regard to your most recent questions, I would recommend that if you are unsure of your dad's next steps, then:

1. Don't clean them in any way.
2. Send them to be slabbed or not--some people prefer to collect them that way and others prefer not. I think that you will see both opinions here on CCF. Slabbing them may get you top dollar, but don't forget that you have to spend some money to get them slabbed.
3. See #1 in case you are thinking about cleaning them.
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To whoever said they looked cleaned or ground found, I see no evidence to suggest either. This is a fantastic collection of NJ coppers. The OP's father must have had a knack for buying high quality coins. Well done.
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Truly awesome. Now I want some!
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Thanks for posting these. Nice to see what the folks in my state were up to a long time ago.

I like your plan to send up 2 or 3 of the better ones for authentication. They'll also say if cleaned. They do seem remarkably clean, such as the 64-T. Part of that impression may be from the bright lighting needed for the pictures, too.
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Nice collection! They all look the same color, which rarely seems to be the case. They may have been cleaned because their color is the same. I would let the coins retone naturally with time.

The 14-J is really nice... Some 14-Js are struck weak in the middle of the obverse, but this one is good. Except for some wear(?) at the end of the plow. I think it would be a good XF, if not for the deep scratch near the second "U" in UNUM and some minor ones in the shield.

I have a 14-J (on the way) in a very similar grade except mine has verdigris:

http://goccf.com/t/307261#2632864


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