Canada Small Cent 1929 High 9 Versus Medium 9 - PCGS

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canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/20/2018 10:41 pm I've had a couple of high 9s just get slabbed by PCGS. I think this is a good high resolution comparison of medium 9 versus high 9 - if you have dual monitors, you can put them up full screen side by side: 1929 Medium 9 (PCGS MS63RB): https://www.PCGS.com/cert/34660412 1929 High 9 (PCGS AU55BN): https://www.PCGS.com/cert/34660413 Enjoy! Edited by canadian-varieties 01/20/2018 10:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff

jbuck Moderator United States 170977 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 01:03 am Those look really nice! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5460 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 05:20 am I don't see any difference between the two. If you put a piece of paper, lined up with the bottoms of the 1 and 2, the last 9 is in the same place .. or so minutely off that it's barely discernable. Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 05:32 am That's why I posted the high res pictures of the two...did you zoom them and put them side by side? I also used to have a hard time telling them apart, and really struggled, but now it's getting easier... The differences are subtle but they're there... For the high 9: - the 9 is straighter (the medium 9 falls more to the right) - the 9 is further away from the 2 (the medium 9 is closer to the 2) - this is fairly easy to tell the difference - the 9 is noticeably higher than the 19 (the medium 9 is almost the same level as the 19, if you draw a line through the tops) - the 9 is same thickness as the first 9 (the medium 9 seems thinner at the bottom?) I think the pix really help Edited by canadian-varieties 01/21/2018 05:38 am Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 05:36 am BTW for anyone interested...there is a 1929 Medium 9 on ebay in MS64 right now.... the prices have gone a little crazy for the mint state ones but the vast majority (other than the famous unlabeled MS65 from Heritage) are medium 9s, not a true high 9... https://www.ebay.ca/itm/ICCS-1929-H...AOSwDVtaW9~r Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5460 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 07:55 am Was the last digit handpunched into the dies for some reason? I don't see anything more than normal die or coin wear between the two. Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 1:01 pm SPP...help me out here man... Report this Post to the Staff
Dorado Bedrock of the Community Canada 24884 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 3:21 pm Nice coins Report this Post to the Staff
viper Pillar of the Community Canada 638 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 3:53 pm Ok so canadian-varieties what would this one be? Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 5:00 pm Super coins - congrats! Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 6:29 pm Viper - yours looks like a Medium 9 Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10449 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 6:42 pm Quote: SPP...help me out here man... With respect to what? Both versions are the High 9. One is a High "Near, Canted slightly Clockwise" 9 and the other is a High "Far, more vertical 9". Here is an overlap at the same scale. The darkest region is where the raised 9 on both coins is similar (overlap). You will notice, however, that one is not "higher" than the other. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5460 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 7:12 pm So the final digit was handpunched into the die. If so, then you have as many "9" placements as there were working dies. At about 100,000 strikes per die, there would be about 120 different locations/cants for the 12 million 1919's minted. I wouldn't think that it would be worth delineating how high is high or how low is low, let alone the nears and fars. Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10449 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 8:06 pm Exactly Okie... just like the 1896 Far 6, in many ways... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
canadian-varieties Pillar of the Community Canada 1442 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 9:26 pm Ok so no medium 9 anymore...the ground beneath my feet continues to shift :) Report this Post to the Staff
Smallcentguy Pillar of the Community Canada 1979 Posts	Posted 01/21/2018 10:59 pm So the ebay coin went for $1575. For MS 64 Red, not much change in value since PCGS added this to the registry set. I think a bargain. Not great photos, but it looks like it should make red in a PCGS holder. Could become PCGS finest? Report this Post to the Staff
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