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1959-D LMC Hold The Presses! "Double" L In "Liberty"

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Couldn't find a match in any of my book or online references...anyone seen this one before?
(minor die clash on reverse also)
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Could it just be a well-placed die chip? I don't see the "doubling" on the vertical portion of the letter L.
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I think it's just that crud on the coin coincidentally has the same shape as the bottom of the L. If it were doubling, it is unusual for there to be no doubling of the vertical bar of the L when the horizontal bar is so strong.
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Under the microscope you can clearly see the split between the two "L"'s uprights and bottom bars.
I preserved this with pure acetone, that is definitely metal and a second "L"...4 Sure...
See if this is better...
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Long explanation. As dies wear, metal flows outwards the details actually stretch and move. the dies are milled down on the outer areas including what is called the rim offset area. That ridge seen in diagram. when milling and trimming are done, digits like the L and upper IGWT are on this edge and are "opened up" into the rim offset. That's the curling effect and missing elements. The extra bar is a chip, it is now the "edge" of the die face on that portion of the letter L. This also could be an edge gouge, but most likely a chip. These details are incused into the die remember, the posts are isolated metal within a device and will break easily when overused. (The die breaks)


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Within the inside corner of the L may be a die chip, or it could just be a stain. It is difficult to tell by the pics whether it is three dimensional or not (acetone won't remove stains). The outward "doubling" of the vertical post of the L is just what Crazyb0 describes: die wear, or deterioration. As a die ages, its outermost devices will creep outward until the coins will show letters in contact with the rim (or the offset on the die).
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Keep in mind an area to look for die wear is the the left side of the 'L' in LIBERTY. The "I' on LIBERTY also look thinner. But the extra foot, I've net seen listed before. You might give it a soak and see if it is just struck there or it was struck there.
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