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"Dragon" 10 Cash Duo

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A couple more "junk" bin finds, condition not stellar but still quite a bit better than that in which I typically find these (many are so utterly wretched that I don't bother with them at all, even at giveaway prices).

Let's see if I can manage not to botch their identification.

Chihli Province, 1906. Struck at the Chin Mint in Tientsin. Apparently a very common issue.






Kiangnan (District), 1905. Almost 500 million struck that year at the Nanking Mint. This is the version with elongated rosettes, which carries an ever so slight premium over the round rosettes variety.





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Hello! What you have here are rather common types of the Chinese 10 Cash.

The first coin, is a coin minted in CHIHLI Province. This is a ten cash coin struck during the Bing Wu year which is 1906. I feel these are rather uncommon to something like Hupeh. This coin has no Province name in English, but rather the central character denoting the province of Chihli.

The second coin is minted in Kiangnan Province, and was minted in 1905. This is because the two characters, on the observe, #20057;#24050; means 1905. This is not the mule, A140 of the Kiangnan 1906 and the reserve of your coin. Your coin, the 1905 Kiangnan 10 Cash, is quite common. Features the flying dragon, a mimic of the Japanese design.


Ill show you my examples shortly! Nice coins!

Anthony
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What you have here are rather common types of the Chinese 10 Cash.

Thanks for confirming my identification of these. As you point out, nothing even remotely scarce here. All they have to commend them is that they're not worn nearly smooth like so many I see.

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Where do you go to find them in junk bins? I thought Qing coins, even the copper ones, are pretty valuable.
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I thought Qing coins, even the copper ones, are pretty valuable.

Some can be, but there're plenty that aren't. A lot of coin shops here in the U.S. would probably research such only if they appeared to be at least AU, and even then their ability to identify those that are especially collectible will likely be limited by the the sheer volume of issues and varieties as well as the paucity of resources available.

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In the past, there were so much Chinese copper coins in junk coin boxes. There was one time I bought from a US seller and the hoard was quite impressive. I think it averaged out to be less than a dollar each which is steal as most of these coins are now from 5 times up to 50 times their value!

But again, there is nothing wrong looking at low grade coins. I often use them as references and cross check when I obtain higher grade coins. Sadly though, counterfeiters have artificially circulate their wares to counter our belief that only high grade / valuable coins are counterfeited.

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Sadly though, counterfeiters have artificially circulate their wares to counter our belief that only high grade / valuable coins are counterfeited.

Could you elaborate on what issues are being forged, and how they can be avoided?


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I have to be brutally honest here - assume all coinage can be counterfeited. There are two sellers in ebay specifically that have been selling 'cheap' coins for a while. Despite my attempts to address this issue, they are now too large to be touched with 100% positive feedback. I will not name them in here as there are cases where sellers have actually attempted to file lawsuits for defamation - the section for reporting counterfeits is not public any longer.

Reading NGC's site may be of use and interest:

https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...o-1934-5-Li/

These at one stage were common and popular. Of course after this article was released, sellers have attempted to get away by artificially circulating them and successfully sold more. These crooks are smart - they can read what is shared on forums and will immediately use any information to improve their wares.

In short - know your stuff otherwise don't throw your money away.
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